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« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2019, 01:15:39 pm »

Why does anyone think that a state that hasn't gone D in a Presidential election since 1996 and has steadily gone R will be a pickup for any Democrat?
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« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2019, 01:26:33 pm »

Why does anyone think that a state that hasn't gone D in a Presidential election since 1996 and has steadily gone R will be a pickup for any Democrat?

This thread is basically a meme.
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« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2019, 01:29:54 pm »

Only if the nominee is Bill Clinton Michael Dukakis, a proven winner in West Virginia.


Fr tho even Bill Clinton wouldn't get more than like 40% in WV or even AR nowadays
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« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2019, 01:30:49 pm »

Safe 🅱️
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« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2019, 05:34:07 pm »

Yes if Manchin runs, no otherwise.
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« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2019, 08:53:48 pm »

Bernie can win this state, but he'll have to pitch "BREAD AND BUTTER" issues to the voters. Many of them are economically liberal, they just don't know it.

I'd highly suggest Bernie goes down to a few good ol' boy coal mines and gets a little dirt on the hands. Nothing like some coal smoot on the old face to get those Bush-Bush-McCain-Romney-Trump voters to reconsider things.

(If you think that last part is insane, read this: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5461322/ns/politics/t/byrd-tells-kerry-how-win-w-va/#.XOIIvlNKhJU)
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« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2019, 08:58:37 pm »

Manchin still trolling the WV Governor's Mansion ?
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« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2019, 02:10:11 pm »

Hopefully, Ojeda succeeds him as Senator-elect in 2024
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« Reply #33 on: May 22, 2019, 04:33:14 pm »

No
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« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2019, 07:36:58 pm »

Safe D. Paula Jean Swearengin will defeat Shelley Moore Capito by 50%+.
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« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2019, 07:52:38 pm »

Safe D. Paula Jean Swearengin will defeat Shelley Moore Capito by 50%+.
What? This is nonsense you neoliberal.
Paula Jean Swearengin will get 90% by getting ancestral Dems from coal country (her father was a miner) and students in the state university.
Richard Ojeda will beat Jim Justice through #populism you neoliberal.
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« Reply #36 on: May 27, 2019, 08:48:26 am »

Safe D. Paula Jean Swearengin will defeat Shelley Moore Capito by 50%+.
What? This is nonsense you neoliberal.
Paula Jean Swearengin will get 90% by getting ancestral Dems from coal country (her father was a miner) and students in the state university.
Richard Ojeda will beat Jim Justice through #populism you neoliberal.

Is this tongue-in-cheek?

WV shifted to the GOP in 2000 because its nominee, Al Gore, was the poster child of the anti-fossil fuels campaign.  It's as simple as that.  WV is socially conservative, but its social conservatism didn't interfere with it's voting Democratic for the most part.  Even in 1984, Reagan carried WV 55-45, which was only 1 point higher than he carried New York, which Reagan carried 54-46.

The UMW did not endorse a candidate in 2016; this was huge for Trump and the GOP in WV, and contributed to the exaggerated margin Trump won by.  I strongly suspect that the UMW will endorse Biden in 2020.  I also suspect that some of the conservative economics of Trump will not be helpful in WV.  I would not be surprised if the Democrats rebound somewhat in WV, though the hits they've taken will make it tough for them carry state offices they don't currently hold.
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« Reply #37 on: May 27, 2019, 12:58:45 pm »

If by D, you mean Death, then yes, it will be a D pickup as Death will continue to pickup in WV.
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« Reply #38 on: May 27, 2019, 01:09:39 pm »

No, only MT, NH, NC are in play in 2020.
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« Reply #39 on: May 27, 2019, 03:02:25 pm »

I seriously do think that Trump will do worse in WV than 2016, not by a lot, but visibly worse.
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« Reply #40 on: May 27, 2019, 03:08:00 pm »

Safe D. Paula Jean Swearengin will defeat Shelley Moore Capito by 50%+.
What? This is nonsense you neoliberal.
Paula Jean Swearengin will get 90% by getting ancestral Dems from coal country (her father was a miner) and students in the state university.
Richard Ojeda will beat Jim Justice through #populism you neoliberal.

Is this tongue-in-cheek?

WV shifted to the GOP in 2000 because its nominee, Al Gore, was the poster child of the anti-fossil fuels campaign.  It's as simple as that.  WV is socially conservative, but its social conservatism didn't interfere with it's voting Democratic for the most part.  Even in 1984, Reagan carried WV 55-45, which was only 1 point higher than he carried New York, which Reagan carried 54-46.

The UMW did not endorse a candidate in 2016; this was huge for Trump and the GOP in WV, and contributed to the exaggerated margin Trump won by.  I strongly suspect that the UMW will endorse Biden in 2020.  I also suspect that some of the conservative economics of Trump will not be helpful in WV.  I would not be surprised if the Democrats rebound somewhat in WV, though the hits they've taken will make it tough for them carry state offices they don't currently hold.

I'm totally kidding. Titanium R always.
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« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2019, 03:08:50 pm »

Safe D. Paula Jean Swearengin will defeat Shelley Moore Capito by 50%+.
What? This is nonsense you neoliberal.
Paula Jean Swearengin will get 90% by getting ancestral Dems from coal country (her father was a miner) and students in the state university.
Richard Ojeda will beat Jim Justice through #populism you neoliberal.

Is this tongue-in-cheek?

WV shifted to the GOP in 2000 because its nominee, Al Gore, was the poster child of the anti-fossil fuels campaign.  It's as simple as that.  WV is socially conservative, but its social conservatism didn't interfere with it's voting Democratic for the most part.  Even in 1984, Reagan carried WV 55-45, which was only 1 point higher than he carried New York, which Reagan carried 54-46.

The UMW did not endorse a candidate in 2016; this was huge for Trump and the GOP in WV, and contributed to the exaggerated margin Trump won by.  I strongly suspect that the UMW will endorse Biden in 2020.  I also suspect that some of the conservative economics of Trump will not be helpful in WV.  I would not be surprised if the Democrats rebound somewhat in WV, though the hits they've taken will make it tough for them carry state offices they don't currently hold.

I'm totally kidding. Titanium R always.

What do you think the Trump cs Biden margin would be?

I say 66-30.
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« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2019, 03:51:25 pm »

Safe D. Paula Jean Swearengin will defeat Shelley Moore Capito by 50%+.
What? This is nonsense you neoliberal.
Paula Jean Swearengin will get 90% by getting ancestral Dems from coal country (her father was a miner) and students in the state university.
Richard Ojeda will beat Jim Justice through #populism you neoliberal.

Is this tongue-in-cheek?

WV shifted to the GOP in 2000 because its nominee, Al Gore, was the poster child of the anti-fossil fuels campaign.  It's as simple as that.  WV is socially conservative, but its social conservatism didn't interfere with it's voting Democratic for the most part.  Even in 1984, Reagan carried WV 55-45, which was only 1 point higher than he carried New York, which Reagan carried 54-46.

The UMW did not endorse a candidate in 2016; this was huge for Trump and the GOP in WV, and contributed to the exaggerated margin Trump won by.  I strongly suspect that the UMW will endorse Biden in 2020.  I also suspect that some of the conservative economics of Trump will not be helpful in WV.  I would not be surprised if the Democrats rebound somewhat in WV, though the hits they've taken will make it tough for them carry state offices they don't currently hold.

I'm totally kidding. Titanium R always.

What do you think the Trump cs Biden margin would be?

I say 66-30.
That's about right. I think Sanders would be 65-31, maybe 65-30.
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« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2019, 04:31:42 pm »

Safe D. Paula Jean Swearengin will defeat Shelley Moore Capito by 50%+.
What? This is nonsense you neoliberal.
Paula Jean Swearengin will get 90% by getting ancestral Dems from coal country (her father was a miner) and students in the state university.
Richard Ojeda will beat Jim Justice through #populism you neoliberal.

Is this tongue-in-cheek?

WV shifted to the GOP in 2000 because its nominee, Al Gore, was the poster child of the anti-fossil fuels campaign.  It's as simple as that.  WV is socially conservative, but its social conservatism didn't interfere with it's voting Democratic for the most part.  Even in 1984, Reagan carried WV 55-45, which was only 1 point higher than he carried New York, which Reagan carried 54-46.

The UMW did not endorse a candidate in 2016; this was huge for Trump and the GOP in WV, and contributed to the exaggerated margin Trump won by.  I strongly suspect that the UMW will endorse Biden in 2020.  I also suspect that some of the conservative economics of Trump will not be helpful in WV.  I would not be surprised if the Democrats rebound somewhat in WV, though the hits they've taken will make it tough for them carry state offices they don't currently hold.

I'm totally kidding. Titanium R always.

I probably agree.  It didn't have to be that way, but the Democrats have done all they could to make that worse, and the path back is probably blocked for them at this point.

The sad thing about the Democrats losing WV (and KY, for that matter) is the fact that these states have decent percentages of unionized workers; they are NOT part of the South.  Their voters have been, until recently, extremely elastic.  Even Robert Byrd (D-WV) voted for the 1965 and 1968. 
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« Reply #44 on: June 01, 2019, 03:18:47 pm »

This thread has to be trolling.
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