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« on: May 16, 2019, 07:34:46 am »

But all life is sacred, amirite??

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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2019, 07:52:25 am »

They simply want life to be dependent on the state and not be something that you just have.
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2019, 09:10:58 am »

They are not pro-life.

They have zero concern, as is evidenced in their policies and attitudes, for life after it leaves the womb.
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2019, 09:17:17 am »

They are not pro-life.

They have zero concern, as is evidenced in their policies and attitudes, for life after it leaves the womb.

This is obviously horrible, but it in no way justifies abortion.
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« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2019, 09:19:18 am »
« Edited: May 16, 2019, 11:44:42 am by Edgar Suit Larry »

They are not pro-life.

They have zero concern, as is evidenced in their policies and attitudes, for life after it leaves the womb.

That's not the issue at all. Their leaders simply want to be the source of validation of the "worthiness" of life. To their voters, that is not just an unfortunate side effect of their leaders' ego but what they think Government is. Government isn't just a tool to make their lives better but simply exists because there is no existence outside of it.
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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2019, 10:12:08 am »

Pro-lifers consider this to be retribution from God for the child's crossing the border. God took this child away to teach the parents a lesson about the sin of illegal immigration. I imagine that's what conservative logic is on this.
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« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2019, 10:14:56 am »

Criticisms of the Republican Party are not arguments in favor of abortion.
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« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2019, 10:23:49 am »

You dont just contract pneumonia that kills after weeks in the hospital in 3 days.  The mother informed cbp that her son was sick 3 days after being apprehended and he was hospitalized that day.  Furthermore, the family was released with an order to appear soon after the boy was hospitalized.

Whether they were apprehended or not, this boy would have died.  You have the right to be angry about this, but it was just a sh**tty set of circumstances...you cant blame anybody in particular.
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2019, 10:37:55 am »

Criticisms of the Republican Party are not arguments in favor of abortion.

That's not the point. The point is that protecting life seems to not be a concern when it comes to actual people for Republicans.
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2019, 10:42:03 am »

Criticisms of the Republican Party are not arguments in favor of abortion.

That's not the point. The point is that protecting life seems to not be a concern when it comes to actual people for Republicans.

"Republicans" is an incredibly broad group.  This forum would do well to remember that.
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« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2019, 10:47:34 am »

In order to be considered truly pro-life, you should:

- Be anti-war
- Be against the death penalty
- Be against abortion (with usual exceptions for rape, incest, mother's life, etc)
- Strongly support increased access to contraceptives so unwanted pregnancies don't happen in the first place
- Support some form of universal healthcare
- Vote for politicians who share most or all of the above positions
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« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2019, 11:50:41 am »

In order to be considered truly pro-life, you should:

- Be anti-war
- Be against the death penalty
- Be against abortion (with usual exceptions for rape, incest, mother's life, etc)
- Strongly support increased access to contraceptives so unwanted pregnancies don't happen in the first place
- Support some form of universal healthcare
- Vote for politicians who share most or all of the above positions

Find me some politicians that hold all of said above positions, and I'll vote for them if possible.
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« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2019, 12:00:10 pm »

In order to be considered truly pro-life, you should:

- Be anti-war
- Be against the death penalty
- Be against abortion (with usual exceptions for rape, incest, mother's life, etc)
- Strongly support increased access to contraceptives so unwanted pregnancies don't happen in the first place
- Support some form of universal healthcare
- Vote for politicians who share most or all of the above positions

Find me some politicians that hold all of said above positions, and I'll vote for them if possible.

Do we want these to be policies and unfunded mandates or outcomes?
I'm fine with having no real safety net if there is virtual no one with no healthcare, housing, and food. I'm fine with the death penalty being an option if its never used.
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« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2019, 12:15:49 pm »

In order to be considered truly pro-life, you should:

- Be anti-war
- Be against the death penalty
- Be against abortion (with usual exceptions for rape, incest, mother's life, etc)
- Strongly support increased access to contraceptives so unwanted pregnancies don't happen in the first place
- Support some form of universal healthcare
- Vote for politicians who share most or all of the above positions

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« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2019, 12:18:27 pm »

In order to be considered truly pro-life, you should:

- Be anti-war
- Be against the death penalty
- Be against abortion (with usual exceptions for rape, incest, mother's life, etc)
- Strongly support increased access to contraceptives so unwanted pregnancies don't happen in the first place
- Support some form of universal healthcare
- Vote for politicians who share most or all of the above positions

Enforce mandatory veganism?
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« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2019, 12:23:55 pm »

In order to be considered truly pro-life, you should:

- Be anti-war
- Be against the death penalty
- Be against abortion (with usual exceptions for rape, incest, mother's life, etc)
- Strongly support increased access to contraceptives so unwanted pregnancies don't happen in the first place
- Support some form of universal healthcare
- Vote for politicians who share most or all of the above positions

Enforce mandatory veganism?

Lol no, but I could add that a "pro-life" person should obviously support animals that are killed for food being killed in the most humane way possible, and not treated the way they currently are.
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2019, 12:25:20 pm »

In order to be considered truly pro-life, you should:

- Be anti-war
- Be against the death penalty
- Be against abortion (with usual exceptions for rape, incest, mother's life, etc)
- Strongly support increased access to contraceptives so unwanted pregnancies don't happen in the first place
- Support some form of universal healthcare
- Vote for politicians who share most or all of the above positions



I said nothing about religion. being pro-life does not innately have to be related to being religious, as I share all of those positions except for being anti-abortion and I am an atheist.
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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2019, 12:32:16 pm »
« Edited: May 16, 2019, 12:35:22 pm by 习近平 2020 »

I said nothing about religion. being pro-life does not innately have to be related to being religious, as I share all of those positions except for being anti-abortion and I am an atheist.

I didn't say anything about religion either, and I think I've pretty clearly established that I'm not religious. I linked the second tweet for the allegory; I have no control over the way tweets display here.

The only point is that I'm not taking advice from pro-abortion activists on how to be properly anti-abortion. We'll end abortion on our own with your "helpful advice," thanks.


Maybe this one is clearer.
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2019, 12:35:27 pm »

I said nothing about religion. being pro-life does not innately have to be related to being religious, as I share all of those positions except for being anti-abortion and I am an atheist.

I didn't say anything about religion either, and I think I've pretty clearly established that I'm not religious. I linked the second tweet for the allegory; I have no control over the way tweets display here.

The only point is that I'm not taking advice from pro-abortion activists on how to be properly anti-abortion. We'll end abortion on our own with your "helpful advice," thanks.

Well, you won't end abortion whether you're on your own or not, and I wasn't trying to give anyone advice to begin with. I was describing what I view as a truly pro-life outlook.
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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2019, 12:36:17 pm »

Well, you won't end abortion whether you're on your own or not, and I wasn't trying to give anyone advice to begin with. I was describing what I view as a truly pro-life outlook.

I'll think of you on the day we end it.
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2019, 12:56:41 pm »

In order to be considered truly pro-life, you should:

- Be anti-war
- Be against the death penalty
- Be against abortion (with usual exceptions for rape, incest, mother's life, etc)
- Strongly support increased access to contraceptives so unwanted pregnancies don't happen in the first place
- Support some form of universal healthcare
- Vote for politicians who share most or all of the above positions



Good to see that you consider people who point out hypocrisies in your views to be the literal devil. That's not remotely the sign of a religious fanatic who can't be reasoned with. Nope, not at all.
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2019, 12:57:48 pm »

I said nothing about religion. being pro-life does not innately have to be related to being religious, as I share all of those positions except for being anti-abortion and I am an atheist.

I didn't say anything about religion either, and I think I've pretty clearly established that I'm not religious. I linked the second tweet for the allegory; I have no control over the way tweets display here.

The only point is that I'm not taking advice from pro-abortion activists on how to be properly anti-abortion. We'll end abortion on our own with your "helpful advice," thanks.


Maybe this one is clearer.

Oh, it's very clear. It's passing the buck 100% without addressing glaring inconsistencies in being so-called pro-life. In short, not having a response.
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2019, 01:15:07 pm »

I didnt realize that pro-lifers drag these children through the desert Roll Eyes
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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2019, 01:16:50 pm »

Pro-lifers consider this to be retribution from God for the child's crossing the border. God took this child away to teach the parents a lesson about the sin of illegal immigration. I imagine that's what conservative logic is on this.
Yeah, you could make this argument if youre religiously inclined I guess. I prefer the secular argument about bad parenting myself.
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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2019, 01:24:57 pm »

They are not pro-life.

They have zero concern, as is evidenced in their policies and attitudes, for life after it leaves the womb.
Did you support the Iraq war?
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