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« on: May 17, 2019, 06:11:50 PM »

I think that he was the last Republican presidential nominee to have won the black vote, he certainly was well-liked in the black community in 1957 when he enforced the Brown v. Board decision in Arkansas.
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2019, 06:27:06 PM »

No, but his 39% in 1956 is crazy high by today's standards. His actions in 1957 obviously did not effect how he did in the 1952 and 1956 elections.
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2019, 06:50:52 PM »

No, but his 39% in 1956 is crazy high by today's standards. His actions in 1957 obviously did not effect how he did in the 1952 and 1956 elections.

What did Stevenson do to beat Eisenhower here?
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2019, 07:23:26 PM »

No, but his 39% in 1956 is crazy high by today's standards. His actions in 1957 obviously did not effect how he did in the 1952 and 1956 elections.

What did Stevenson do to beat Eisenhower here?

Be a New Deal Democrat from The North. Not that hard.
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2019, 07:29:38 PM »

No, but his 39% in 1956 is crazy high by today's standards. His actions in 1957 obviously did not effect how he did in the 1952 and 1956 elections.

What did Stevenson do to beat Eisenhower here?

Be a New Deal Democrat from The North. Not that hard.
Even though he picked a vocal segregationist as his running mate in 1952.
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2019, 07:35:44 PM »

No, but his 39% in 1956 is crazy high by today's standards. His actions in 1957 obviously did not effect how he did in the 1952 and 1956 elections.

What did Stevenson do to beat Eisenhower here?

Be a New Deal Democrat from The North. Not that hard.
Even though he picked a vocal segregationist as his running mate in 1952.

I was thinking of that too. How did that not hurt? His running mate in 1956 was also a southerner, though one more favorably inclined towards civil rights.
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2019, 07:46:24 PM »

No, but his 39% in 1956 is crazy high by today's standards. His actions in 1957 obviously did not effect how he did in the 1952 and 1956 elections.

What did Stevenson do to beat Eisenhower here?

Be a New Deal Democrat from The North. Not that hard.
Even though he picked a vocal segregationist as his running mate in 1952.

Mind boggling. This is exactly why I assumed Eisenhower won the black vote
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2019, 09:51:20 PM »

No, but his 39% in 1956 is crazy high by today's standards. His actions in 1957 obviously did not effect how he did in the 1952 and 1956 elections.

What did Stevenson do to beat Eisenhower here?

Be a New Deal Democrat from The North. Not that hard.
Even though he picked a vocal segregationist as his running mate in 1952.

Mind boggling. This is exactly why I assumed Eisenhower won the black vote

Probably cause the VP choice doesn’t really affect elections outside their home states .
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2019, 10:12:10 PM »

No, but his 39% in 1956 is crazy high by today's standards. His actions in 1957 obviously did not effect how he did in the 1952 and 1956 elections.

What did Stevenson do to beat Eisenhower here?

Be a New Deal Democrat from The North. Not that hard.
Even though he picked a vocal segregationist as his running mate in 1952.

Mind boggling. This is exactly why I assumed Eisenhower won the black vote

Probably cause the VP choice doesn’t really affect elections outside their home states .

And also because Eisenhower or Nixon didn't really make an issue out of Sparkman's position on civil rights. if they had hammered him on that the GOP ticket probably could have won the black vote, but likely at the expense of doing worse with rural whites.
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2019, 10:21:19 PM »

No, but his 39% in 1956 is crazy high by today's standards. His actions in 1957 obviously did not effect how he did in the 1952 and 1956 elections.

What did Stevenson do to beat Eisenhower here?

Be a New Deal Democrat from The North. Not that hard.
Even though he picked a vocal segregationist as his running mate in 1952.

Mind boggling. This is exactly why I assumed Eisenhower won the black vote

Probably cause the VP choice doesn’t really affect elections outside their home states .

And also because Eisenhower or Nixon didn't really make an issue out of Sparkman's position on civil rights. if they had hammered him on that the GOP ticket probably could have won the black vote, but likely at the expense of doing worse with rural whites.

Yes that makes sense
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2019, 10:37:37 PM »

No, but his 39% in 1956 is crazy high by today's standards. His actions in 1957 obviously did not effect how he did in the 1952 and 1956 elections.

What did Stevenson do to beat Eisenhower here?

Be a New Deal Democrat from The North. Not that hard.
Even though he picked a vocal segregationist as his running mate in 1952.

Mind boggling. This is exactly why I assumed Eisenhower won the black vote

Probably cause the VP choice doesn’t really affect elections outside their home states .

And also because Eisenhower or Nixon didn't really make an issue out of Sparkman's position on civil rights. if they had hammered him on that the GOP ticket probably could have won the black vote, but likely at the expense of doing worse with rural whites.

1) Most of the GOP’s points they gained by fanning racial flames came from the racism of SUBURBAN Whites (busing being a prime example), so not really sure where the shade thrown at the rurals is coming from.

2) Black voters proved long before this that they’d prefer a more explicitly racist Democratic Party that actually supported some economic programs that might benefit their communities over a nominally tolerant GOP that crafted its economic policies around the country club.  Ike wasn’t winning the Black vote in any scenario, IMO.
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2019, 09:23:21 PM »

No, but his 39% in 1956 is crazy high by today's standards. His actions in 1957 obviously did not effect how he did in the 1952 and 1956 elections.

What did Stevenson do to beat Eisenhower here?

Blacks didnt turnout for Stevenson which resulted in an illusion of a higher vote percentage for Eisenhower.

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Eisenhower’s campaign and civil rights record led to considerable inroads with black voters. The Gallup Poll’s “semi-final election analysis” released on November 4, 1956, concluded that Eisenhower had gained 21% among Negro voters compared to his 1952 numbers, from 21% to 42%. Samuel Lubell analyzed the voting returns in Negro wards from 86 cities, nearly one million voters. He concluded that Eisenhower won 36 percent of the black vote. 80 Moses Rischin, a contemporary historian wrote in his analysis of the election that, “for the first time in twenty years, Negroes returned to the Republican party in considerable numbers.”81 Jet’s election summary was titled “Why Negroes Switched to Ike.” Jet sought to explain the causes to its readers of what was and observable fact, the black vote had shifted.82 Democratic incoherence on civil rights had clearly cost them amongst African-American voters.

They had surrendered the initiative the Republicans whose small steps of progress toward civil rights looked large by comparison. Malcolm Moos writes that “Stevenson’s equivocations on civil rights undoubtedly disenchanted some elements of the Democratic black vote and cost him important newspaper support.”83 The startling lack of support from black newspapers and leaders indicates a significant shift in 1956 towards support for the Republican Presidential candidate. African Americans in 1956 communicated their disaffection with the Democratic Party by abstaining from voting. The RNC research division concluded that Eisenhower’s 8.7% improvement in ten northern cities was primarily the result of 119,000 fewer votes for Stevenson. Historian Timothy Thurber suggests that this undermined the campaign success, which he views as largely insignificant. On the contrary, the Republicans ran a campaign to disenchant blacks with the Democratic Party. Declining voter turnout indicates the success of that campaign and the growing frustration of blacks with the Democratic Party.84

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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2019, 10:59:05 AM »

Nope, Herbert Hoover in 1932 was the last Republican presidential candidate to do so.
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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2019, 12:14:43 PM »

Nope, Herbert Hoover in 1932 was the last Republican presidential candidate to do so.

Which is ironic considering he was extremely racist, but then again, Al Smith wasn't much better.
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