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« on: May 20, 2019, 08:55:18 AM »
« edited: May 31, 2019, 06:36:01 PM by tack50 »

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Amendment to the Standing Orders:

1. The Standing Orders of the Lincoln Council shall be amended as follows:
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Section 3. Legislative Debates and Voting
B. During debate, Councillors and sponsors of proposed legislation may suggest amendments to proposed legislation. If the sponsor of the proposed legislation publicly deems the amendment friendly, no vote on the amendment shall be required. If the sponsor of the proposed legislation does not publicly deem the amendment friendly, or any other Councillor objects to the amendment, a vote on the amendment shall be taken 24 hours after being proposed unless there is less than 24 hours of debate remaining on the bill. If there is less than 24 hours of debate remaining on the bill, a vote on the amendment shall be taken before proceeding to a final vote on the bill. Such vote shall be open for 24 hours, or until all Councillors have voted, if earlier. An amendment shall pass if a majority of Councillors vote in favor of it (with abstentions and absences not counted as votes).

Sponsor: Zaybay

Debate time for this bill has started and shall last for no less than 72h
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2019, 09:14:33 AM »

As requested by Governor Peanut and Speaker tack, this gets rid of the big problem Suburban has revealed of the ability of a bills sponsor to unilaterally veto any and all amendments over the opinion of the majority, and to unilaterally amend their bill even if their amendment is opposed by every other Councillor.
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2019, 10:58:14 AM »

I oppose this, if a Councilor r keeps rejecting amendments, just reject their bill
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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2019, 06:17:57 PM »

Not much debate here in several days (I think it even fell of the 1st page).

I motion for a final vote, 24h to object
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2019, 07:28:55 PM »

I object

There has been no debate on this bill
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2019, 06:08:28 PM »

Councillors, a vote is open on the objection to a final vote

Should we proceed to a final vote?

Please vote AYE, NAY or Abstain
This vote shall last for 48h or until all councillors have voted
As the bill has been on the floor for less than 240 hours, this vote shall require a 2/3 majority
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2019, 06:08:50 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2019, 07:40:53 PM »

Aye.
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2019, 07:44:06 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2019, 07:54:43 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2019, 08:49:02 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2019, 09:27:53 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2019, 10:25:31 AM »

Sorry I'm late! Anyways:

The vote on the objection is now closed

Aye: 6 (tack50, thr33, Pyro, Zaybay, Dipper Josh, Ninja)
Abstain: 0
Nay: 1 (SNJC)
Not voting: 2 (lfromnj, Griffin)

A 2/3 majority having been obtained, the objection is overruled
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2019, 10:26:51 AM »

Concillors, a FINAL vote is open on the following legislation

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Amendment to the Standing Orders:

1. The Standing Orders of the Lincoln Council shall be amended as follows:
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Section 3. Legislative Debates and Voting
B. During debate, Councillors and sponsors of proposed legislation may suggest amendments to proposed legislation. If the sponsor of the proposed legislation publicly deems the amendment friendly, no vote on the amendment shall be required. If the sponsor of the proposed legislation does not publicly deem the amendment friendly, or any other Councillor objects to the amendment, a vote on the amendment shall be taken 24 hours after being proposed unless there is less than 24 hours of debate remaining on the bill. If there is less than 24 hours of debate remaining on the bill, a vote on the amendment shall be taken before proceeding to a final vote on the bill. Such vote shall be open for 24 hours, or until all Councillors have voted, if earlier. An amendment shall pass if a majority of Councillors vote in favor of it (with abstentions and absences not counted as votes).

Please vote AYE, NAY or Abstain
This vote shall last for 48 hours or until all councillors have voted
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2019, 10:44:27 AM »

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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2019, 10:59:12 AM »

NAY!!!!!!!
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2019, 05:21:18 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2019, 05:22:42 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2019, 05:34:36 PM »

Abstain
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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2019, 06:07:08 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2019, 10:39:46 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2019, 05:18:50 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2019, 06:32:56 PM »

As all Councillors have now voted:

The FINAL vote on LC 2.19 Amendment to the Standing Orders II is now closed

Aye: 7 (tack50, thr33, Dipper Josh, Ninja, Griffin, lfromnj, Zaybay)
Abstain: 1 (Pyro)
Nay: 1 (SNJC)
Not voting: 0

So this bill passes
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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2019, 06:35:47 PM »

Since this is an Amendment to the Standing Orders, I'll a symbolic signature even if it isn't needed

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Amendment to the Standing Orders:

1. The Standing Orders of the Lincoln Council shall be amended as follows:
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Section 3. Legislative Debates and Voting
B. During debate, Councillors and sponsors of proposed legislation may suggest amendments to proposed legislation. If the sponsor of the proposed legislation publicly deems the amendment friendly, no vote on the amendment shall be required. If the sponsor of the proposed legislation does not publicly deem the amendment friendly, or any other Councillor objects to the amendment, a vote on the amendment shall be taken 24 hours after being proposed unless there is less than 24 hours of debate remaining on the bill. If there is less than 24 hours of debate remaining on the bill, a vote on the amendment shall be taken before proceeding to a final vote on the bill. Such vote shall be open for 24 hours, or until all Councillors have voted, if earlier. An amendment shall pass if a majority of Councillors vote in favor of it (with abstentions and absences not counted as votes).

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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2019, 08:13:02 PM »

Another common sense Standing Orders amendment passed, in spite of the illogical rantings of the Councillor from New Jersey.
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