Opinion of Matthew27?

[Joe Republic]

It's not like he was just a troll lol. It's been confirmed that he has nearly 10K posts on Stormfront and he's been profiled and mentioned by several media outlets in articles related to white nationalism.

Yikes, how did you find out? I’m really not familiar with all the details in this case, I was only going by his posting history on this forum (which to me indicates that he’s at the very least a bad troll).

Anyway, like I said in another thread, he should be banned irrespective of whether he’s just a trash-tier troll or a genuine white supremacist. I rarely endorse bans, but this is an open-and-shut case in my eyes.

The dumbass openly admitted it, unprompted, in the 'Make a Confession' thread.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Wait there's a literal white supremacist on Atlas? Wtf

It makes you wonder how many other posters we have who share the same views but are more secretive about them.

Most of the Atlas Experience makes me wonder how may posters we have here who secretly hate America, want it to fail, and work for it to fail because their real allegiance is to the enemies of America.

I can wonder about secret agendas as well as you can.  The people here who hate America are smart enough to overtly deny it, but they give up the ghost with their posts.

Shut up.

Putting white supremacy and whatever dumb sh**t you think constitutes as "hating America" on the same moral plane is vile even for you.

Sorry, but I won't shut up.  Indeed, telling me to shut up is a sign that I've successfully disrupted the Echo Chamber, and that I'm on the right track.

People act here as if, somehow, being "racist" (and some people have incredibly self-serving definitions as to what this is) is the only thing that makes you an HP.

Everyone people here don't like get compared to Hitler here.  (Well, not all, but quite a few.)  But we don't seem to compare someone to Stalin or Mao.  These people killed millions to, not in the name of racism, but in the name of politics and cultural conformity.  

In February, 1957, one month after I was born, Mao Zedong said this:

"Letting a hundred flowers blossom and a hundred schools of thought contend is the policy for promoting progress in the arts and the sciences and a flourishing socialist culture in our land."

That when I was one (1) month old.  Later on, when I was 9, and just beginning to watch news on TV, I would see reports of Mao's Cultural Revolution, where Mao was imprisoning and killing his enemies.  That statement he made was a statement to lure his enemies into the open so he could arrest them and imprison or kill them.

Then, there's Stalin, the world leader who is responsible for more deaths than Hitler.  To be "fair" (for lack of a better word; neither Hitler nor Stalin deserve fairness), Stalin had far more time to work at this than Hitler did.  (Hitler's reign of terror lasted 12 years, while Stalin ruled the Soviet Union for 39 years.)  He WAS our WWII ally, an alliance that led to the end of the Good War and the beginning of the Terrible Peace, and his atrocities were whitewashed over, for the sake of holding our collective vomit down while defeating the more present foes (Germany and Japan); that should not obscure what he was, what he did, and why he did it.

Lenin, himself, said:  "The goal of socialism is communism."  And Stalin's massacre of the Kulaks was part of reaching that goal by collectivizing agriculture.  It wasn't "racist".  Indeed, there is amazingly little to show Stalin as being "racist", or even anti-Semitic (in a nation with a long history of anti-Semitism and Pogroms).  Of course, Stalin did engage in a 13 year anti-religious campaign (during the time of his bloody purges and oppression of the Kulaks); that was aimed in part at Jews, but in another part at the Russian Orthodox Church.  During the period of 1927-40, the number of Russian Orthodox Churches decreased from almost 29,600 to under 500 (you read that right).  That's in the Russian Republic alone, and did not include the other republics of the Soviet union.  And while that may give the anti-religious left on Atlas cause to cheer, I suppose that even they understand the ominousness of such a development of history.

People SHOULD be alarmed at people who make a career of exacerbating ethnic and racial hatreds.  It is something that is un-Christian and un-American.  Romans 12:13 says:  "“If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.”  That's the key to living a Christian life; the understanding that doing so is not dependent on one participating in rituals, observing dietary laws, etc.  Keeping Faith with Christ requires no one else to go along.  Biblical Christianity has NEVER demanded that persons reject people of other races and ethnicities and live within one's own group; indeed, Christ commissioned his Disciples to "Go ye, therefore, into all the world and preach this Gospel to every creature . . ."  Scripture has, over and over, said:  "Love one another as I have loved you." (John 13:34)  "Love your enemies; bless those who curse you." (Matthew 5:44)  "Beloved, let us love one another.  For Love is of God, and everyone that loveth is born of God and knoweth God.  He that loveth not knoweth not God, for God is Love."  (1 John 4:7-8)  One can go on and on about this.  And Matthew27, if he claims to be a Christian, at a minimum needs to repent and allow for correction, for his stated views place him in a pretty bad place, Biblically.  

But in saying this, what correction is needed for the Communist that hates America and wishes it ill?  The Communist whose secret agenda is religious persecution of Americans, and of religious people all over?  The Nazis and Fascists made appeals to working classes, acknowledging their sufferings and promising redress, but the Bolsheviks did also; Marx, himself, said that religion was "the opium of the people".  The Apostle James said:  "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world."  (James 1:27)  Matthew27 has that choice, but, quite frankly, so do you and I.  This is what the Bolsheviks sought to openly destroy in the Soviet Union, and it is what American Communists today still wish to destroy.  Democracy is a mere means to their ends; the majority of Communist parties in Eastern Europe came to power through free elections after WWII.

I'm all for Resisting the False Song of Fascism, and I'm all for those who run the Forum dealing appropriately with persons who use this forum to express what is unquestionable overt racist sentiment (of any kind, including racially-based hostility of non-whites toward whites as well as anti-black, anti-Hispanic, and anti-nonwhite minority sentiments) but I'm also for Resisting the False Song of Bolshevism as well, and I'm not going to pretend that THAT false song isn't sung on Atlas, either.  THAT false song led to the massacre of Kulaks in the 1920s.  I'll leave it to the reader to conclude as to why this story is barely known in today's Information Age America.    

[GM Team Member and Senator WB]

Wait there's a literal white supremacist on Atlas? Wtf

It makes you wonder how many other posters we have who share the same views but are more secretive about them.

Sanchez calls himself a "reformed white supremacist" and actually met the "MAGAbomber" once

[Santander]

I'm not even sure Fuzzy realizes that bringing Stalin and Mao or communism into a discussion about neo-Nazis or white supremacists is exactly the type of thing David Duke or his Stormfront followers would do.

[Fuzzy Bear]

I'm not even sure Fuzzy realizes that bringing Stalin and Mao or communism into a discussion about neo-Nazis or white supremacists is exactly the type of thing David Duke or his Stormfront followers would do.

Stormfront and Neo-Nazis are pathetic.  The whole crowd of them.  Awful folks.  I've never said otherwise.  I have no use for them, I don't support them, and I would not associate with someone in my personal life if I discovered that someone was, indeed, that.  I have no use for these people.  I would never vote for such a person if I were aware that this is what they were in fact.  And I realize that some people hide this until they get where they want to be.

I'm not defending them, or apologizing for them.  And I've never said otherwise.  In fact, I condemn them, all of them, unequivocally.  Matthew27 is, at best a confused soul, and, at worst, a person whose basic ideas should never drive public policy.

Here on Atlas, we will condemn, at the drop of a hat, anything that is considered "racist".  And well people should; actual racism should be condemned.  "We Condemn Racism In All Forms" is a valid Values Statement for ANY reputable organization, and any reputable organization SHOULD condemn racism unequivocally. 

What people do here is try to define "racism" as any stance that opposes the policy objectives of specific groups in certain issues (voting rights, immigration, criminal justice).  There are, indeed, issues that involve matters of racial justice and fairness, but they also involve issues that have two sides to them and opposition to a particular side is not a matter of bigotry, but a matter of policy.  It's a way to shut down honest policy debate by demonizing persons who disagree with their stances ,and it happens all the time here.

Part of this is a vested narrative of how Neo-Nazis are about to storm the Brooklyn Bridge and take over America if we don't do something.  I simply don't believe it, any more than when, in my youth, I believe that the Commies were about to cross the Potomac and invade Washington.  But I'm going to confront these narratives; they are falsehoods, and they are driven by people who wish to use cheap demonizing to win arguments they have trouble winning by logic.

And I note that I've touched a nerve by suggesting that, as sure as there is alt-right Neo-Nazi influences in our politics and in our social media, there is anti-American Communist/Bolshevik influence in the same manner.  There are people that post here that loathe America and wish for it to be destroyed and remade in their image.  It is certainly hard for me to think that such people wish well for me, or for the vast majority of Americans (of which I am one) who are not members of the alt-right or the fringe left and only wish to live their lives.   

[Joe Republic]

^ In summation:  BOTH SIDES!!!

[Fuzzy Bear]

People need to realize that whites aren't the bad guys and shouldn't feel ashame of who we're.
We ended slavery
we developed human rights for all
we have helped billions of people

There's nothing to be ashamed of and I hope whites wake up realizing this one day.

I am sick of the hatred white people face in our colleges and media. It needs to stop! Ban me but do think about some things as you're doing so.

and People need to realize that whites aren't the bad guys and shouldn't feel ashame of who we're.
We ended slavery
we developed human rights for all
we have helped billions of people

There's nothing to be ashamed of and I hope whites wake up realizing this one day.

I am sick of the hatred white people face in our colleges and media. It needs to stop! Ban me but do think about some things as you're doing so.

0/10

Now I do view these quotes as the quote of a guy who is a 10K poster at Stormfront (by his own admission).  In that vein, these thoughts are potentially dangerous.  I live in the real world.

It is, indeed, possible, to not be a racist, and to condemn these posts for the spirit that they were posted in.  This kind of paranoia doesn't do anyone any good.  But to the extent that such a statement is an observation, hatred of white Americans is, indeed, encouraged in some quarters in some colleges and universities.  This isn't a secret.  It's nowhere near the moral outrages of slavery or Jim Crow segregation.  It's nowhere near the legitimate questions of racial justice faced in a number of current criminal justice and voting rights topics.  But however paranoid Matthew27 may or may not be (and I'm not his analyst), what he states does go on, and there are, indeed, some people here on Atlas that are part of that, and many brush that off as if it's OK.

Misdemeanor Battery is not as serious as Attempted Murder With A Firearm in terms of the seriousness of an act, but both are wrong, and the perpetrator of the lesser, unchecked, has often grown over time to more serious behaviors.  That the check some here need may well be another discussion for another time, and may not be the check that the more severe perpetrator needs, it's still needed.

[Joe Republic]

^ In summation:  Matthew27 does have a point, you know.

[Boobs]

^ In summation:  Matthew27 does have a point, you know.

In fact, Fuzzy’s belief is probably more dangerous - the idea that white supremacy comes from a “legitimate” point of grievance and just takes it too far, rather than a morally depraved, baseless ideology - and is probably the strongest evidence in favor of the argument that America is experiencing serious moral decline.

[Fuzzy Bear]

^ In summation:  Matthew27 does have a point, you know.

In fact, Fuzzy’s belief is probably more dangerous - the idea that white supremacy comes from a “legitimate” point of grievance and just takes it too far, rather than a morally depraved, baseless ideology - and is probably the strongest evidence in favor of the argument that America is experiencing serious moral decline.

That's not my belief at all.  I have never said this, and I don't believe this. 

"White Supremacy" is something that comes from a depraved mindset, if you're talking about Stormfront, etc.  Let's get that straight.  I DO condemn White Supremacy; it is, indeed, un-Christian, un-American, and it is, indeed, evidence of the moral decline of America.  I do consider the whole of the alt-right to have a morally baseless ideology, and their presence (while inflated by some here for their own partisan purposes) is, indeed, driven by their own moral baselessness and delusion.  And, yes, it is dangerous.  I'm well aware of the history of Germany between the World Wars, and of how dangerous that thinking is.

You're full of beans as to what I have even said, let alone what I mean.  I'll give you the grace of recognizing that everyone has a bad day.

[Boobs]

I may be full of beans, but it's better than being full of sh**t.

[Fuzzy Bear]

I may be full of beans, but it's better than being full of sh**t.

Once you get done digesting the beans . . .

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I must have missed something, because I’ve never seen any inflammatory posts on his part. Then again I haven’t been on Atlas in the last few days.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Oh WOW. Yeah disregard my last post.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Wait there's a literal white supremacist on Atlas? Wtf

It makes you wonder how many other posters we have who share the same views but are more secretive about them.

Sanchez calls himself a "reformed white supremacist" and actually met the "MAGAbomber" once

The #MAGA bomber was hilarious. I knew that encounter was....um....unique then.

And I can’t be a reformed white supremacist when I never voiced support for white supremacy - there’s a YUGE difference between the two, just like there is between a normal HP and a mega HP.

[AtorBoltox]

Fuzzy Bear is an apologist for white nationalism

[PSOL]

HP like all Nazis are. I’m not surprised at all of this behavior in this thread by the respective fellows in light of all this.

[Badger]

People need to realize that whites aren't the bad guys and shouldn't feel ashame of who we're.
We ended slavery
we developed human rights for all
we have helped billions of people

There's nothing to be ashamed of and I hope whites wake up realizing this one day.

I am sick of the hatred white people face in our colleges and media. It needs to stop! Ban me but do think about some things as you're doing so.

WTF are white people. I don't come from a white land. My ancestors income from White Sylvania. I'm half Irish and Scotch Irish, and approximately half Austrian. Not 1% white. Neither are you.

Anyone trying to identify as white rather than their actual European ethnicity is identifying himself on the basis of them who they aren't, i e not , and proudly are being white power jackasses.

Mod fail.

[Badger]

Anyone who posts on StormFront (let alone a five-figure post count) is beyond help.

Very succinctly put.

I have to say that I disagree. My ideological past isn't exactly secret on here. I used to post on Stormfront (although, certainly nowhere near 10,000 posts and only for a brief period of time), so I certainly don't believe that simply because someone posts on Stormfront then they're beyond redemption. There are even former Aryan Nation, KKK, and other assorted White Supremacists who were quite committed to their ideology, including tattoos, rituals, and demonstrations of violence, who've been redeemed.

Whether or not Matthew27 can be is an interesting question and, without knowing him better, is impossible for anyone to truly answer. So, while I'm not in favor of him being immediately banned, I do believe he should be closely monitored and subject to more rigorous scrutiny by the moderators than ordinary posters.

So you used to be a fascist and now you're a socialist? Figures. Reminds me of that Onion article entitled "Former Cult Members Find New Life With Jesus Christ."

So, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground? Figures. People who depend upon simplistic intellectual and moral structures tend to be drawn to ideologies such as Libertarianism, then pretend like they're superior to others in their simplicity.

I'm quite certain that you don't have the slightest clue what the actual teachings of Marxism are, what philosophic foundations it is founded upon, or what motivates most people to support it. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but I'm confident that, in this situation, that won't occur.

I wasn't aware that you had posted there. The difference is that a, you posted there once or twice as opposed to 10,000 times, which indicates very much how seriously you take that storm front stuff. Secondly, you've obviously repudiated that stuff completely. As Matthew 27 posts with literally every other thread, he wallows in it still.

But thank God he's here to keep this place from becoming a liberal Echo chamber. Am I right muon?

[Badger]

Anyone who posts on StormFront (let alone a five-figure post count) is beyond help.

Very succinctly put.

I have to say that I disagree. My ideological past isn't exactly secret on here. I used to post on Stormfront (although, certainly nowhere near 10,000 posts and only for a brief period of time), so I certainly don't believe that simply because someone posts on Stormfront then they're beyond redemption. There are even former Aryan Nation, KKK, and other assorted White Supremacists who were quite committed to their ideology, including tattoos, rituals, and demonstrations of violence, who've been redeemed.

Whether or not Matthew27 can be is an interesting question and, without knowing him better, is impossible for anyone to truly answer. So, while I'm not in favor of him being immediately banned, I do believe he should be closely monitored and subject to more rigorous scrutiny by the moderators than ordinary posters.

He's not beyond redemption, no. But as of right now, he personally isn't worthy of a more favorable opinion in the forum at large. Only those who once held this ideology and have since repudiated it are really deserving of praise for coming to the side of rationality.
He has to take the first steps.

But it's extremely clear he's not, nor ever about to in the foreseeable future.

[Badger]

Wait there's a literal white supremacist on Atlas? Wtf

Quite a number, actually. Matthew 27 has been extremely open about his views. It's only now that he's crossed his line by admitting he's posted ten thousand times on Stormfront at the mall to find a quarter ounce of balls actually do something that should have been done ages ago.

But liberal Echo chamber, blah blah blah blah blah. It's utterly amazing that a mod admin who cites the TOs as his Bible to follow in being so cold even handed ignores the fact, that is pointed out here in, that the TOs bans racist statements.

[Badger]

Wait there's a literal white supremacist on Atlas? Wtf

It makes you wonder how many other posters we have who share the same views but are more secretive about them.

Most of the Atlas Experience makes me wonder how may posters we have here who secretly hate America, want it to fail, and work for it to fail because their real allegiance is to the enemies of America.

I can wonder about secret agendas as well as you can.  The people here who hate America are smart enough to overtly deny it, but they give up the ghost with their posts.

Shut up.

Putting white supremacy and whatever dumb sh**t you think constitutes as "hating America" on the same moral plane is vile even for you.

Sorry, but I won't shut up.  Indeed, telling me to shut up is a sign that I've successfully disrupted the Echo Chamber, and that I'm on the right track.

People act here as if, somehow, being "racist" (and some people have incredibly self-serving definitions as to what this is) is the only thing that makes you an HP.

Everyone people here don't like get compared to Hitler here.  (Well, not all, but quite a few.)  But we don't seem to compare someone to Stalin or Mao.  These people killed millions to, not in the name of racism, but in the name of politics and cultural conformity.  

In February, 1957, one month after I was born, Mao Zedong said this:

"Letting a hundred flowers blossom and a hundred schools of thought contend is the policy for promoting progress in the arts and the sciences and a flourishing socialist culture in our land."

That when I was one (1) month old.  Later on, when I was 9, and just beginning to watch news on TV, I would see reports of Mao's Cultural Revolution, where Mao was imprisoning and killing his enemies.  That statement he made was a statement to lure his enemies into the open so he could arrest them and imprison or kill them.

Then, there's Stalin, the world leader who is responsible for more deaths than Hitler.  To be "fair" (for lack of a better word; neither Hitler nor Stalin deserve fairness), Stalin had far more time to work at this than Hitler did.  (Hitler's reign of terror lasted 12 years, while Stalin ruled the Soviet Union for 39 years.)  He WAS our WWII ally, an alliance that led to the end of the Good War and the beginning of the Terrible Peace, and his atrocities were whitewashed over, for the sake of holding our collective vomit down while defeating the more present foes (Germany and Japan); that should not obscure what he was, what he did, and why he did it.

Lenin, himself, said:  "The goal of socialism is communism."  And Stalin's massacre of the Kulaks was part of reaching that goal by collectivizing agriculture.  It wasn't "racist".  Indeed, there is amazingly little to show Stalin as being "racist", or even anti-Semitic (in a nation with a long history of anti-Semitism and Pogroms).  Of course, Stalin did engage in a 13 year anti-religious campaign (during the time of his bloody purges and oppression of the Kulaks); that was aimed in part at Jews, but in another part at the Russian Orthodox Church.  During the period of 1927-40, the number of Russian Orthodox Churches decreased from almost 29,600 to under 500 (you read that right).  That's in the Russian Republic alone, and did not include the other republics of the Soviet union.  And while that may give the anti-religious left on Atlas cause to cheer, I suppose that even they understand the ominousness of such a development of history.

People SHOULD be alarmed at people who make a career of exacerbating ethnic and racial hatreds.  It is something that is un-Christian and un-American.  Romans 12:13 says:  "“If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.”  That's the key to living a Christian life; the understanding that doing so is not dependent on one participating in rituals, observing dietary laws, etc.  Keeping Faith with Christ requires no one else to go along.  Biblical Christianity has NEVER demanded that persons reject people of other races and ethnicities and live within one's own group; indeed, Christ commissioned his Disciples to "Go ye, therefore, into all the world and preach this Gospel to every creature . . ."  Scripture has, over and over, said:  "Love one another as I have loved you." (John 13:34)  "Love your enemies; bless those who curse you." (Matthew 5:44)  "Beloved, let us love one another.  For Love is of God, and everyone that loveth is born of God and knoweth God.  He that loveth not knoweth not God, for God is Love."  (1 John 4:7-8)  One can go on and on about this.  And Matthew27, if he claims to be a Christian, at a minimum needs to repent and allow for correction, for his stated views place him in a pretty bad place, Biblically.  

But in saying this, what correction is needed for the Communist that hates America and wishes it ill?  The Communist whose secret agenda is religious persecution of Americans, and of religious people all over?  The Nazis and Fascists made appeals to working classes, acknowledging their sufferings and promising redress, but the Bolsheviks did also; Marx, himself, said that religion was "the opium of the people".  The Apostle James said:  "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world."  (James 1:27)  Matthew27 has that choice, but, quite frankly, so do you and I.  This is what the Bolsheviks sought to openly destroy in the Soviet Union, and it is what American Communists today still wish to destroy.  Democracy is a mere means to their ends; the majority of Communist parties in Eastern Europe came to power through free elections after WWII.

I'm all for Resisting the False Song of Fascism, and I'm all for those who run the Forum dealing appropriately with persons who use this forum to express what is unquestionable overt racist sentiment (of any kind, including racially-based hostility of non-whites toward whites as well as anti-black, anti-Hispanic, and anti-nonwhite minority sentiments) but I'm also for Resisting the False Song of Bolshevism as well, and I'm not going to pretend that THAT false song isn't sung on Atlas, either.  THAT false song led to the massacre of Kulaks in the 1920s.  I'll leave it to the reader to conclude as to why this story is barely known in today's Information Age America.    

And is the most idiotic post you ever made. And that's saying a lot. Your whataboutism has reached Peak levels.

[Badger]

Wait there's a literal white supremacist on Atlas? Wtf

It makes you wonder how many other posters we have who share the same views but are more secretive about them.

Sanchez calls himself a "reformed white supremacist" and actually met the "MAGAbomber" once

The #MAGA bomber was hilarious. I knew that encounter was....um....unique then.

And I can’t be a reformed white supremacist when I never voiced support for white supremacy - there’s a YUGE difference between the two, just like there is between a normal HP and a mega HP.

You've been an apologist for white nationalism i. E. Racism, many many times.

[Some of My Best Friends Are Gay]

People need to realize that whites aren't the bad guys and shouldn't feel ashame of who we're.
We ended slavery
we developed human rights for all
we have helped billions of people

There's nothing to be ashamed of and I hope whites wake up realizing this one day.

I am sick of the hatred white people face in our colleges and media. It needs to stop! Ban me but do think about some things as you're doing so.

WTF are white people. I don't come from a white land. My ancestors income from White Sylvania. I'm half Irish and Scotch Irish, and approximately half Austrian. Not 1% white. Neither are you.

Anyone trying to identify as white rather than their actual European ethnicity is identifying himself on the basis of them who they aren't, i e not , and proudly are being white power jackasses.

Mod fail.

Are you allowed to say this here?

[Badger]

People need to realize that whites aren't the bad guys and shouldn't feel ashame of who we're.
We ended slavery
we developed human rights for all
we have helped billions of people

There's nothing to be ashamed of and I hope whites wake up realizing this one day.

I am sick of the hatred white people face in our colleges and media. It needs to stop! Ban me but do think about some things as you're doing so.

WTF are white people. I don't come from a white land. My ancestors income from White Sylvania. I'm half Irish and Scotch Irish, and approximately half Austrian. Not 1% white. Neither are you.

Anyone trying to identify as white rather than their actual European ethnicity is identifying himself on the basis of them who they aren't, i e not , and proudly are being white power jackasses.

Mod fail.

Are you allowed to say this here?

I am speaking for the Stormfront mentality. I believe I'm quoting an African American sociologist that has analyzed the whole issue of "white culture" racist mentality.

Nevertheless, I'll modify my post. I honestly thought autoedit would adding asterisks and stuff like for profanities.

The whole point is that so-called white culture and white people isn't about identifying with whom you are, it's about identifying yourself on the basis of who you are not. No one has much Consciousness in terms of being Italian or Irish oh, Norwegian, whatever anymore. It's something they take some familial pride in and maybe ekstrom so on St Patrick's Day or Columbus Day, Etc. Also maybe in the family cooking. But at the end of the day they aren't concerned about making sure Norwegians have enough representation government, or with rare Urban ethnic enclaves that are largely dead over the last 50 years, whether there's an Italian in government or space number of Polish people in government, Etc.

So when racist talk about white culture, they're trying to lump in together European cultures with vastly varying differences of in background and culture, and lumping them together in a default we're not the brown people or Jews mentality. In other words oh, it's a fundamentally and inherently mistaken and invalid basis of self-identification.

Put even more simply, it is a self-identity based entirely on the notion of punching down, not punching up.