Opinion of Matthew27?

[JA]

Anyone who posts on StormFront (let alone a five-figure post count) is beyond help.

Very succinctly put.

I have to say that I disagree. My ideological past isn't exactly secret on here. I used to post on Stormfront (although, certainly nowhere near 10,000 posts and only for a brief period of time), so I certainly don't believe that simply because someone posts on Stormfront then they're beyond redemption. There are even former Aryan Nation, KKK, and other assorted White Supremacists who were quite committed to their ideology, including tattoos, rituals, and demonstrations of violence, who've been redeemed.

Whether or not Matthew27 can be is an interesting question and, without knowing him better, is impossible for anyone to truly answer. So, while I'm not in favor of him being immediately banned, I do believe he should be closely monitored and subject to more rigorous scrutiny by the moderators than ordinary posters.

[John Dule]

Anyone who posts on StormFront (let alone a five-figure post count) is beyond help.

Very succinctly put.

I have to say that I disagree. My ideological past isn't exactly secret on here. I used to post on Stormfront (although, certainly nowhere near 10,000 posts and only for a brief period of time), so I certainly don't believe that simply because someone posts on Stormfront then they're beyond redemption. There are even former Aryan Nation, KKK, and other assorted White Supremacists who were quite committed to their ideology, including tattoos, rituals, and demonstrations of violence, who've been redeemed.

Whether or not Matthew27 can be is an interesting question and, without knowing him better, is impossible for anyone to truly answer. So, while I'm not in favor of him being immediately banned, I do believe he should be closely monitored and subject to more rigorous scrutiny by the moderators than ordinary posters.

So you used to be a fascist and now you're a socialist? Figures. Reminds me of that Onion article entitled "Former Cult Members Find New Life With Jesus Christ."

[John Dule]

Amazing that posters are really going out of their way sticking their necks out for white supremacists. Unfortunately not at all surprised though.

(Sorry for the repost, had to delete this originally to screencap proof that Gov Story was my 1989th post.)

Oh my God, and it's so amazing that the ACLU defends the freedom of speech of NAZIS. The ACLU is confirmed as a racist organization.

[Skunk]

Amazing that posters are really going out of their way sticking their necks out for white supremacists. Unfortunately not at all surprised though.

(Sorry for the repost, had to delete this originally to screencap proof that Gov Story was my 1989th post.)

Oh my God, and it's so amazing that the ACLU defends the freedom of speech of NAZIS. The ACLU is confirmed as a racist organization.

The only person I called a racist was the dude with 10,000 posts on Stormfront, so I don't even know what you're trying to strawman my dude.

[JA]

Anyone who posts on StormFront (let alone a five-figure post count) is beyond help.

Very succinctly put.

I have to say that I disagree. My ideological past isn't exactly secret on here. I used to post on Stormfront (although, certainly nowhere near 10,000 posts and only for a brief period of time), so I certainly don't believe that simply because someone posts on Stormfront then they're beyond redemption. There are even former Aryan Nation, KKK, and other assorted White Supremacists who were quite committed to their ideology, including tattoos, rituals, and demonstrations of violence, who've been redeemed.

Whether or not Matthew27 can be is an interesting question and, without knowing him better, is impossible for anyone to truly answer. So, while I'm not in favor of him being immediately banned, I do believe he should be closely monitored and subject to more rigorous scrutiny by the moderators than ordinary posters.

So you used to be a fascist and now you're a socialist? Figures. Reminds me of that Onion article entitled "Former Cult Members Find New Life With Jesus Christ."

So, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground? Figures. People who depend upon simplistic intellectual and moral structures tend to be drawn to ideologies such as Libertarianism, then pretend like they're superior to others in their simplicity.

I'm quite certain that you don't have the slightest clue what the actual teachings of Marxism are, what philosophic foundations it is founded upon, or what motivates most people to support it. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but I'm confident that, in this situation, that won't occur.

[John Dule]

Anyone who posts on StormFront (let alone a five-figure post count) is beyond help.

Very succinctly put.

I have to say that I disagree. My ideological past isn't exactly secret on here. I used to post on Stormfront (although, certainly nowhere near 10,000 posts and only for a brief period of time), so I certainly don't believe that simply because someone posts on Stormfront then they're beyond redemption. There are even former Aryan Nation, KKK, and other assorted White Supremacists who were quite committed to their ideology, including tattoos, rituals, and demonstrations of violence, who've been redeemed.

Whether or not Matthew27 can be is an interesting question and, without knowing him better, is impossible for anyone to truly answer. So, while I'm not in favor of him being immediately banned, I do believe he should be closely monitored and subject to more rigorous scrutiny by the moderators than ordinary posters.

So you used to be a fascist and now you're a socialist? Figures. Reminds me of that Onion article entitled "Former Cult Members Find New Life With Jesus Christ."

So, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground? Figures. People who depend upon simplistic intellectual and moral structures tend to be drawn to ideologies such as Libertarianism, then pretend like they're superior to others in their simplicity.

I'm quite certain that you don't have the slightest clue what the actual teachings of Marxism are, what philosophic foundations it is founded upon, or what motivates most people to support it. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but I'm confident that, in this situation, that won't occur.

I mean, I've taken multiple Marx-related classes in the political philosophy department at my university, and I've read (and written about) Kapital, the Manifesto, German Ideology, the Jewish Question, and many of his other writings pretty extensively. I may not know everything about Marx, but I know enough to understand that anyone who still adheres to his philosophy in the 21st century is an ignoramus who is probably drawn to extreme political systems due to a severe lack of satisfaction with his own life decisions. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but I too am confident that, in this situation, that won't occur either.

[parochial boy]

Is there something about having a yellow avatar that melts your brain?

[Sestak]

Is there something about having a yellow avatar that melts your brain?

You should read what he posted in the 'Political Positions' thread. He really believes he has everything figured out lol.

[afleitch]

10k post count on Stormfront is a deal breaker; the forum doesn't exist to coddle people with personality disorders or appeals to 'bOtH sIdEz' enabling centrism. This is not THE INTERNET and too many people think the online inertia of the past few years and the 'market place of ideas' bull that demands snowflake closet door busting white supremacists get a platform is how everwhere should be.

This is a publicly searchable forum. You're all here, all of us at discretion.

[Southern Delegate matthew27]

People need to realize that whites aren't the bad guys and shouldn't feel ashame of who we're.
We ended slavery
we developed human rights for all
we have helped billions of people

There's nothing to be ashamed of and I hope whites wake up realizing this one day.

I am sick of the hatred white people face in our colleges and media. It needs to stop! Ban me but do think about some things as you're doing so.

[Southern Delegate matthew27]

10k post count on Stormfront is a deal breaker; the forum doesn't exist to coddle people with personality disorders or appeals to 'bOtH sIdEz' enabling centrism. This is not THE INTERNET and too many people think the online inertia of the past few years and the 'market place of ideas' bull that demands snowflake closet door busting white supremacists get a platform is how everwhere should be.

This is a publicly searchable forum. You're all here, all of us at discretion.

So you're so sure of your self that you're going to tell millions of people that look at real data that we're wrong. Maybe you and some other people should consider some things going on around you as they may well end up resulting in a safer world for us all.

Liberals really aint the powerhouse of knowledge they were in the old days that is for sure...A movement that has turned into a I hate whites and I hate men. Idiocy I'd say and that is exactly were that movement is directing us towards.

[John Dule]

10k post count on Stormfront is a deal breaker; the forum doesn't exist to coddle people with personality disorders or appeals to 'bOtH sIdEz' enabling centrism. This is not THE INTERNET and too many people think the online inertia of the past few years and the 'market place of ideas' bull that demands snowflake closet door busting white supremacists get a platform is how everwhere should be.

This is a publicly searchable forum. You're all here, all of us at discretion.

So you're so sure of your self that you're going to tell millions of people that look at real data that we're wrong. Maybe you and some other people should consider some things going on around you as they may well end up resulting in a safer world for us all.

Liberals really aint the powerhouse of knowledge they were in the old days that is for sure...A movement that has turned into a I hate whites and I hate men. Idiocy I'd say and that is exactly were that movement is directing us towards.

Keep on digging this ditch for yourself; you might make me almost regret defending you.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

If you guys even know the names of our newer members you're already losing.

[John Dule]

Is there something about having a yellow avatar that melts your brain?

You should read what he posted in the 'Political Positions' thread. He really believes he has everything figured out lol.

At the risk of sounding as though I care about your opinion, that's a thread for posting your political beliefs, and so I posted my political beliefs. I don't see why that would come across as any more "having it all figured out" than any other post in those 50+ pages.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Anyone who posts on StormFront (let alone a five-figure post count) is beyond help.

Very succinctly put.

I have to say that I disagree. My ideological past isn't exactly secret on here. I used to post on Stormfront (although, certainly nowhere near 10,000 posts and only for a brief period of time), so I certainly don't believe that simply because someone posts on Stormfront then they're beyond redemption. There are even former Aryan Nation, KKK, and other assorted White Supremacists who were quite committed to their ideology, including tattoos, rituals, and demonstrations of violence, who've been redeemed.

Whether or not Matthew27 can be is an interesting question and, without knowing him better, is impossible for anyone to truly answer. So, while I'm not in favor of him being immediately banned, I do believe he should be closely monitored and subject to more rigorous scrutiny by the moderators than ordinary posters.

He's not beyond redemption, no. But as of right now, he personally isn't worthy of a more favorable opinion in the forum at large. Only those who once held this ideology and have since repudiated it are really deserving of praise for coming to the side of rationality.
He has to take the first steps.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

That he's a Stormfronter (assuming this is true) means I'll not endorse him for anything or invite him to social events (if I knew who he was).

I must say that I have a tough time understanding how he's violated the ToS.  His real viewpoints may be repulsive, but has he violated the ToS? 

I would think (and hope) that his blatantly racist comments would be a violation of the terms of service, but as I said earlier, I'm not super familiar with them.

Racist comments are a violation of ToS.

[afleitch]

10k post count on Stormfront is a deal breaker; the forum doesn't exist to coddle people with personality disorders or appeals to 'bOtH sIdEz' enabling centrism. This is not THE INTERNET and too many people think the online inertia of the past few years and the 'market place of ideas' bull that demands snowflake closet door busting white supremacists get a platform is how everwhere should be.

This is a publicly searchable forum. You're all here, all of us at discretion.

So you're so sure of your self that you're going to tell millions of people that look at real data that we're wrong. Maybe you and some other people should consider some things going on around you as they may well end up resulting in a safer world for us all.

Liberals really aint the powerhouse of knowledge they were in the old days that is for sure...A movement that has turned into a I hate whites and I hate men. Idiocy I'd say and that is exactly were that movement is directing us towards.

tldr

[S019]

Massive HP


He's a neo-Nazi

[Santander]

Anyone who posts on StormFront (let alone a five-figure post count) is beyond help.

Posts, or has posted? Asking for a friend.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

It's not even necessarily the posts on Stormfront - it goes much further than that. It's that this is a leader in the American white nationalist movement, two steps from being Richard Spencer, with profiles on him from multiple major media outlets and that he pals around with very violent people who are in-and-out of prison. This only has the potential to be bad for David Leip.

[Grassroots]

If he should be banned, it should be primarily because of how much of a freaking dumba*s he is for telling people.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

If he should be banned, it should be primarily because of how much of a freaking dumba*s he is for telling people.

Stop the hedging - it's painful to watch when you won't pass either standard

[Xing]

Yikes, I'm always conflicted whether it's "better" for people to openly state horrible beliefs so that we know where they actually stand, or if it's worse, since it normalizes these sorts of beliefs. Either way, HP, obviously.

Anyone who posts on StormFront (let alone a five-figure post count) is beyond help.

Posts, or has posted? Asking for a friend.

Doing it once just to be able to brag about having done it doesn't count.

[John Dule]

If he should be banned, it should be primarily because of how much of a freaking dumba*s he is for telling people.

Stop the hedging - it's painful to watch when you won't pass either standard

If John Adams can defend the British soldiers from the Boston Massacre, I feel like we should get a pass for defending some anonymous internet wrongthinker's right to free speech. You guys have every right to push for a permaban, just as we have a right to defend the free use of this platform. It's not up to either of us to decide, but you need to stop dismissing the other perspective offhand like this. It's extremely childish.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

If he should be banned, it should be primarily because of how much of a freaking dumba*s he is for telling people.

Stop the hedging - it's painful to watch when you won't pass either standard

If John Adams can defend the British soldiers from the Boston Massacre, I feel like we should get a pass for defending some anonymous internet wrongthinker's right to free speech. You guys have every right to push for a permaban, just as we have a right to defend the free use of this platform. It's not up to either of us to decide, but you need to stop dismissing the other perspective offhand like this. It's extremely childish.

You seem to have a lot of trouble interpreting my posts for someone who I would like to think is (probably?) in the smarter half of this forum. My post very clearly indicates that I consider the poster in the same class as the one who ought to be banned - not hating on him for opposing a ban (which he doesn't). When the poster tried to change the narrative in rationalizing support for a ban using "intelligence" rather than "white supremacy" ("ideas") as a reason for a ban, I warned that neither standard would prevent them from coming for him. (More a joke than actual support for another ban fight)

This is not a DEFENSE OF FREE SPEECH issue (nor is it an "anonymous internet person" but that's beside the point). In fact, my post takes no issue with a wrongthinker posting here, and I encourage those poorly thought out ideas to keep being posted behind my post blocker so I can avoid most of them. I don't really support free speech on this forum, but so long as they don't lead to an infestation of repugnant subhumans or an added news media focus and so long as I have space on my block list, I'm not really interested in a debate over free speech.

You had this same problem yesterday when you seemed to think I was authentically writing in support of genocide as a form of population control rather than critiquing population control as a benefit/reason for pursuing a policy and attacked me for supporting immigration(!)