NYC teachers told to focus on black students over other groups

[Suburbia]

And people get confused why once-apathetic, apolitical white people are registering to vote and they trend to the right.

https://nypost.com/2019/05/25/teachers-allegedly-told-to-treat-black-students-as-victims-punish-whites/

[Brittain33]

A teacher's hurt feelings because the workshop wasn't about her family history, which tragic as it was, has nothing to do with NYC schools, is not the center of this issue.

In any case, I agree. The NY Post mischaracterizing and scaremongering on attempts to deal with rampant bias in the school system is a factor that contributes to white fragility and activating white nationalism in voters.

[Fuzzy Bear]

A teacher's hurt feelings because the workshop wasn't about her family history, which tragic as it was, has nothing to do with NYC schools, is not the center of this issue.

In any case, I agree. The NY Post mischaracterizing and scaremongering on attempts to deal with rampant bias in the school system is a factor that contributes to white fragility and activating white nationalism in voters.

https://nypost.com/2019/05/25/teachers-allegedly-told-to-treat-black-students-as-victims-punish-whites/

“If I had a poor white male student and I had a middle-class black boy, I would actually put my equitable strategies and interventions into that middle class black boy because over the course of his lifetime he will have less access and less opportunities than that poor white boy,” the consultant, Darnisa Amante, is quoted as saying by those in the room.

This kind of speaks for itself, does it not?  

“My grandparents taught me to understand the dangers of ‘targeted racism’ or the exclusion of any group, and the importance of equity for all people. This is my core value as an educator,” the superintendent told colleagues.

“At the break, I stood up and, to my surprise, I was verbally attacked by a black superintendent in front of my colleagues. She said ‘This is not about being Jewish! It’s about black and brown boys of color only. You better check yourself.’”

Why would any non-black parent think that this particular superintendent had any concern for THEIR kids' education, or their welfare in general?  If a white superintendent took such a position toward white schoolchildren, they'd be excoriated for racism, and deservedly so.  So why is this OK?

This story wasn't manufactured out of whole cloth.  The DOE Officials in NYC aren't going to explicitly share this content of a seminar with the public; stories like this is how the pubic in many locales actually learn of the content of "training" that educators receive on the public dime; they will blame the messenger (the NY Post) as being "inflammatory", when what is inflammatory is the content of the training, itself, as well as the actual stated attitude toward white students expressed by a Superintendent.

I could say more, but this isn't right.  And if this sort of thing is "justice" and "equality", then we've redefined those terms sub silentio, because the vast majority of America does not understand justice and equality in these terms, nor should they.

Oh, and the Jewish Superintendent who was rightfully offended wasn't offended that the training wasn't all about her and her family.  She was rightfully offended by a peer telling her to "check (herself)".  I'm sure that if I were to tell a colleague that during a training on my job, I'd be the subject of a workplace grievance, and rightly so.  I'm also sure that if the roles were reversed and the other superintendent was told to check themselves, there would be all sorts of cries of "racism" here.

I grew up during the Civil Rights era.  I was glad to see the end of Jim Crow segregation in the South.  More importantly, I was hopeful that racial discrimination in hiring and housing in the North would diminish, and black folks would become upwardly mobile to where their standing and position in American society would reflect their percentage of the whole population, and that we would be at a place where a person's race would someday be an afterthought.  This sort of thing causes me to believe that some people are working day and night to see that day never comes.

[GP270watch]

 There's a lot of research thats shows teachers have implicit biases towards black students especially black boys and sadly it starts all the way in preschool.

[Suburbia]

There's a lot of research thats shows teachers have implicit biases towards black students especially black boys and sadly it starts all the way in preschool.

Which is true, but that doesn't mean that one group should be favored over another..iequalityisn't that what the Left advocates for?

[GP270watch]

There's a lot of research thats shows teachers have implicit biases towards black students especially black boys and sadly it starts all the way in preschool.

Which is true, but that doesn't mean that one group should be favored over another..iequalityisn't that what the Left advocates for?

 Black children(especially boys) are the ones currently not being treated equally.

 Why is it that whites and other groups have more issues with the imagined idea of whites not being treated equal than the actual and long history of blacks not being given equal rights?

[Suburbia]

There's a lot of research thats shows teachers have implicit biases towards black students especially black boys and sadly it starts all the way in preschool.

Which is true, but that doesn't mean that one group should be favored over another..iequalityisn't that what the Left advocates for?

 Black children(especially boys) are the ones currently not be treated equally.

 Why is it that whites and other groups have more issues with the imagined idea of whites not being treated equal than the actual and long history of blacks not being given equal rights?

Equal rights already exist, there is more work to be done, but this is not the 60s anymore. Enough is enough. Level the playing field equally, dont pick favorites.

[GP270watch]

Equal rights already exist, there is more work to be done, but this is not the 60s anymore. Enough is enough. Level the playing field equally, dont pick favorites.

 Equal rights exist on paper but not always in reality.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

The public sector should never hire consultants at all tbh, given the consultant class are an entirely useless group of people who can basically be replaced with a google search in most cases. (The private sector shouldn't really hire them either, although I guess it's their choice to waste their money). If you want to solve the issues created by institutional racism, it'll probably be way more effective to simply hand cash out to poor black families rather than pay some middle class NGO millions to give some tedious PowerPoint presentations to bored administrators.

“If I had a poor white male student and I had a middle-class black boy, I would actually put my equitable strategies and interventions into that middle class black boy because over the course of his lifetime he will have less access and less opportunities than that poor white boy,” the consultant, Darnisa Amante, is quoted as saying by those in the room.

yeah, this is the sort of pearl of wisdom you get from these hucksters.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

There's a lot of research thats shows teachers have implicit biases towards black students especially black boys and sadly it starts all the way in preschool.

Proper term being “against”, no?

[GP270watch]

There's a lot of research thats shows teachers have implicit biases towards black students especially black boys and sadly it starts all the way in preschool.

Proper term being “against”, no?

 Sure that's the end result. Sometimes they think they're being helpful. Like the studies have repeatedly found they give more "attention" to the black boys but this ends up meaning they overly scrutinize their behaviors and punish and admonish them more severely for common behaviors that all young school children might do.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

That story about the Jewish superintendent is a chilling little reminder of how Corbynist thought is quietly working its way into our society under cover of darkness.

[DrScholl]

Years and years of bias builds up so of course black students are going to need more attention to reach a level of equality.

[Horus]

That story about the Jewish superintendent is a chilling little reminder of how Corbynist thought is quietly working its way into our society under cover of darkness.

You really are mental.

[James Monroe]

Wow, a race based thread created by bronze, what could possible go wrong?

[Indy Texas]

“If I had a poor white male student and I had a middle-class black boy, I would actually put my equitable strategies and interventions into that middle class black boy because over the course of his lifetime he will have less access and less opportunities than that poor white boy,” the consultant, Darnisa Amante, is quoted as saying by those in the room.

This isn't exactly false.

The median college-educated black American has less household wealth than the median white American who never went to college.

[Progressive Pessimist]

A teacher's hurt feelings because the workshop wasn't about her family history, which tragic as it was, has nothing to do with NYC schools, is not the center of this issue.

In any case, I agree. The NY Post mischaracterizing and scaremongering on attempts to deal with rampant bias in the school system is a factor that contributes to white fragility and activating white nationalism in voters.

I couldn't have said this better myself.

[Fuzzy Bear]

A teacher's hurt feelings because the workshop wasn't about her family history, which tragic as it was, has nothing to do with NYC schools, is not the center of this issue.

In any case, I agree. The NY Post mischaracterizing and scaremongering on attempts to deal with rampant bias in the school system is a factor that contributes to white fragility and activating white nationalism in voters.

I couldn't have said this better myself.

You could have made a more reasonable statement, but you didn't make the effort to.  As usual.

The NY Post did not mischaracterize the meeting; these people meant what they said.  And the superintendant that lashed out at the Jewish superintendant put their anti-Semitism on full display.  "Check yourself."  How many cries of "Racism!" would there be if the Jewish Superintendant said this to the Black Superintendant.

One of the realities of true equality in a democratic society is that the ideas, statements, and stated positions of minorities in positions of great responsibility ought to be open to the same criticism as statements made by other such persons without running to the "Racism" button when their bad ideas are scrutinized, or their bad behavior reprimanded.  The superintendent that said that it's not about being Jewish, it's about the black and brown students should have been reprimanded for that statement; it was vicious and uncalled for, and it was a vicious, uncalled for, anti-Semitic attack on a person who, quite frankly, had a legitimate criticism of the entire premise and tone of the workshop.

Let's go back to NY Post quote:

At a monthly superintendents meeting in the spring of 2018, shortly after Carranza’s arrival, members were asked to share answers to the question: “What lived experience inspires you as a leader to fight for equity?”

One Jewish superintendent shared stories about her grandmother Malka who told of bombs falling in Lodz, Poland, and running from the Nazis in the wee hours by packing up her four children and hiding in the forest, and her grandfather Naftali, who spent nearly six years in a labor and concentration camp, where he witnessed the brutal execution of his mother and sister.

“My grandparents taught me to understand the dangers of ‘targeted racism’ or the exclusion of any group, and the importance of equity for all people. This is my core value as an educator,” the superintendent told colleagues.

“At the break, I stood up and, to my surprise, I was verbally attacked by a black superintendent in front of my colleagues. She said ‘This is not about being Jewish! It’s about black and brown boys of color only. You better check yourself.’”

“I was traumatized,” the Jewish educator said. “ It was like 1939 all over again. I couldn’t believe this could happen to me in NYC!”

Here, you have a peer sharing an experience that was relevant to the exercise and the question asked, and that person was viciously attacked, verbally, at a break.  Think about it; the response this woman gave was relevant to the question asked. 

It's outrageous.

The issue of implicit biases that teachers have toward black students is a legitimate issue in public education, and there are legitimate issues that pertain specifically to black and Hispanic students in NYC that have to due with legitimate issues of being at a disadvantage.  But is this the way to solve the issues?  I doubt it, and I would not blame white parents of NYC schoolchildren for raising Hell, itself over tax money spent on a consultant that tells their teachers to pour their resources into students of color, only.  The appearance of such a statement alone is improper on its face.  Daniel Patrick Monyihan was criticized to his dying day for using the phrase "benign neglect" to describe his approach to anti-poverty programs in the early 1970s.  He never lived that down (and, perhaps, rightly so).  Yet "benign neglect" seems to be an improvement over what DeBlasio's minons have in store for white students in NYC Public Schools.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Wow, a race based thread created by bronze, what could possible go wrong?

Bronz in a nutshell
https://mobile.twitter.com/MattBors/status/1129434926577676289

[Hammy]

And people get confused why once-apathetic, apolitical white people are registering to vote and they trend to the right.

https://nypost.com/2019/05/25/teachers-allegedly-told-to-treat-black-students-as-victims-punish-whites/

If people are going to rearrange their entire political outlook over the actions of literally one person, they don't have the mental capacity to be voting in the first place.

[Hollywood]

And people get confused why once-apathetic, apolitical white people are registering to vote and they trend to the right.

https://nypost.com/2019/05/25/teachers-allegedly-told-to-treat-black-students-as-victims-punish-whites/

If people are going to rearrange their entire political outlook over the actions of literally one person, they don't have the mental capacity to be voting in the first place.

Why are you pretending like this is the only instance?   The day without white people, white people shouldn’t have a voice in public discourse, the claims that white people cannot truly sympathize with the plight of minorities, and the bullying of white educators and students by left-wing mobs.   There’s a story like this every week.  Is this some sort of leftist strategy to pretend facts are a right-wing conspiracies?  There is a very clear left-wing movement to institute racism against white students, specifically males, at public institutions and colleges in order to redress past racism in the United States no matter how attenuated or vague the circumstances.  What was once a belief that disadvantaged minorities should receive an advantage in admission to colleges has kronenberged into a movement that no self-respecting white person should ever support.  White people shouldn't support shooting themselves in the foot.  We should bring people up; not bring ourselves down.