Opinion of Fuzzy Bear

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These numbers are kind of interesting. I think this is probably a reasonable ceiling for someone whose beliefs piss off a lot of Atlas users but who is otherwise respectful and articulate.

If Fuzzy were more like an average Republican user in posting style, his FF numbers would probably crater.

Respectful?? It is the ultimate of disrespect (and well outside the mainstream, so nobody start) to believe our Jewish, Catholic, Mormon, and nonreligious posters will spend eternity burning in Hell.

Do you know anything about Christianity at all?

Yes, I went to Catholic Sunday school for 12 years and have done lots of additional self-study. The idea that only Christians can go to Heaven is only believed by some conservative Evangelical denominations, despite their constant claim that it's the "default" Christian position.

I went to a Lutheran and then a Reformed school from 1999 through 2015. I would recommend you read a Bible. Jesus lays it out quite clearly.

And yet the Catholic Church, Anglican Communion, Orthodox Churches, and Mormons explicitly disagree with you. That encompasses over 70% of Christians right there, and we haven't counted all the mainline Protestants who also disagree, nor the BRTD-type Evangelicals. (I don't have exact numbers on every Protestant denomination or their explicit beliefs, but I think it's safe to say that gets us into the mid-80s.)

You can say it's "clear" until the cows come home, but the numbers say otherwise.

Uh, last time I checked, Catholics and Eastern Orthodox believe that only Christians go to heaven.

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Uh, last time I checked, Catholics and Eastern Orthodox believe that only Christians go to heaven.

You are either lying or have never listened to them before. If you didn't have to be christian to go to heaven, there would be no christians in 2019

And if any christian has ever said this before, they are wrong. It makes zero sense.

This is what I mean when I say that Evangelicals tend to think their denomination's views are the "default" Christian beliefs and are totally unaware that other Christians disagree.

https://www.catholic.com/qa/how-can-atheists-go-to-heaven

Anyone who explicitly rejects the Gospel and the Church cannot achieve salvation.  All salvation comes from Christ and the Church is the visible sign and instrument of that salvation.

https://oca.org/orthodoxy/the-orthodox-faith/spirituality/the-kingdom-of-heaven/heaven-and-hell

For those who love the Lord, His Presence will be infinite joy, paradise and eternal life. For those who hate the Lord, the same Presence will be infinite torture, hell and eternal death. The reality for both the saved and the damned will be exactly the same when Christ “comes in glory, and all angels with Him,” so that “God may be all in all” (1 Cor 15–28). Those who have God as their “all” within this life will finally have divine fulfillment and life. For those whose “all” is themselves and this world, the “all” of God will be their torture, their punishment and their death. And theirs will be “weeping and gnashing of teeth” (Mt 8.21, et al.).

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depraved and bizarre even by the standards of right-wing Christianity

I believe God works through Good Guys With Guns.  He can (and does) work through other methods, but this is a method He certainly employs.

What is unusual about that post?

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Total fake Christian like most of the evangelicals. Doesn't live by the teachings of Jesus and then uses the scriptures in twisted ways to be able to discriminate and do what he pleases. He's a textbook example of why religion is in decline.

Fuzzy Bear isn't why religion is in decline, he's one of the minority of Americans who are actually taking their faith seriously.

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Fuzzy Bear isn't why religion is in decline, he's one of the minority of Americans who are actually taking their faith seriously.

Anybody who intertwines faith and politics has clearly never read The Screwtape Letters, or even considered what they are doing. It’s literally a defined tactic of the Devil himself. And as for your judgment rendered upon tens of millions of American Christians? ... I think that speaks for itself.

The percentage of Americans who take Christianity (or Judaism, Islam, or Buddhism for that matter) seriously is very low.  I stand by what I said.