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« on: July 08, 2019, 11:55:40 AM »
« edited: July 12, 2019, 08:33:04 PM by Pyro »

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Lincoln Symbols Act

Section I. The Flag of Lincoln

1. The Flag of Lincoln shall be depicted as thirteen stripes alternating maroon and yellow; the blue-fielded canton of the upper-lefthand side of the flag featuring a yellow sailboat as tribute to our boating and fishing culture, to celebrate and promote the conservation of the region's many lakes and bodies of water, surrounded by a ring of fourteen stars, each representing a single constituent state of Lincoln.

2. The Flag of Lincoln shall recognize the history and cultural identity of Lincoln.

3. The Flag of Lincoln shall be flown above regional offices beside the National Flag of Atlasia.

4. The Governor of Lincoln shall be granted the right to appoint and organize a flag-change committee once per term, with a final decision contingent upon a two-thirds majority in the Lincoln Council.

Section II. The Great Seal of Lincoln

1. The Great Seal of Lincoln shall feature the Liberty Bell in a navy blue background above the Official Motto of Lincoln, the border embroidered with blue rings, surrounded by maroon rings, overlapped by yellow petals.

2. The Great Seal of Lincoln shall recognize the history and cultural identity of Lincoln.

3. The Great Seal of Lincoln shall be present and visible in all regional offices and placed upon official podiums within the Council Chamber and the Offices of Governor, Speaker and Chancellor.

Section III: The Official Motto of Lincoln

1. The official motto of Lincoln shall be inscribed in Latin: Verum potestatem facit lex, translated to English: Truth, not power, makes law.

Section IV: The Anthem of Lincoln

1. Lincoln shall have three recognized regional anthems. These shall be as follows.

  a. "Battle Cry of Freedom," written in 1862 by George Frederick Root.

  b. "Solidarity Forever," written in 1914 by Ralph Chaplin.

  c. "This Land is Your Land," written in 1944 by Woody Guthrie.

Section V: The Flower of Lincoln

1. The Carnation shall be recognized as the Official Flower of Lincoln.

Section VI: The Bird of Lincoln

1. The Red-Tailed Hawk shall be recognized as the Official Bird of Lincoln.

Section VII: The Pokémon of Lincoln

1. Bulbasaur shall be recognized as the Official Pokémon of Lincoln, as well as the Official Kanto Starter of Lincoln as per Resolution L 15.11.

2. Arceus shall be recognized as the Official Legendary Pokémon of Lincoln as per Resolution L 15.11.

Section VIII. And The Rest

1. The Official Northern Symbols Act AKA the Northern Regional Symbols Act of 2016 (N141) is hereby repealed.

Section IX: Enactment

1. This bill shall become law upon the signing of the Governor.

Sponsor: Pyro

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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2019, 12:09:44 PM »

This legislation seeks to update the rather dilapidated Northern Regional Symbols Act with several minor alterations. One important difference from the original bill is that any mention of "North", "Northern", or "Northern Region" is rightly replaced with "Lincoln" in appropriate locations.

I have also swapped out the Official Bird and Flower of Lincoln, and added additional anthems for Lincoln. These are all certainly subject to change.

The most significant update in this legislation is that it would allow the Governor to open a flag-change committee once per term as desired. I believe that our flag is overdue for an upgrade, and this would start that process. The mandated two-thirds majority approval will prevent overly partisan flag designs. (As an aside, I was originally considering "once per year" or "once every two years" but considering the speed of the game, I think once per term is fine.)
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2019, 08:08:21 PM »

This land is your land is literally a partisan song. Should definitely be voted down even If I partially agree with the message of it.
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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2019, 12:59:13 PM »

I understand the concerns brought forth by the congressman and I would also add that segments of "This Land is Your Land" reference locations which lie beyond the borders of Lincoln.

I'll therefore introduce a short amendment striking it from the bill.

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Lincoln Symbols Act

Section I. The Flag of Lincoln

1. The Flag of Lincoln shall be depicted as thirteen stripes alternating maroon and yellow; the blue-fielded canton of the upper-lefthand side of the flag featuring a yellow sailboat as tribute to our boating and fishing culture, to celebrate and promote the conservation of the region's many lakes and bodies of water, surrounded by a ring of fourteen stars, each representing a single constituent state of Lincoln.

2. The Flag of Lincoln shall recognize the history and cultural identity of Lincoln.

3. The Flag of Lincoln shall be flown above regional offices beside the National Flag of Atlasia.

4. The Governor of Lincoln shall be granted the right to appoint and organize a flag-change committee once per term, with a final decision contingent upon a two-thirds majority in the Lincoln Council.

Section II. The Great Seal of Lincoln

1. The Great Seal of Lincoln shall feature the Liberty Bell in a navy blue background above the Official Motto of Lincoln, the border embroidered with blue rings, surrounded by maroon rings, overlapped by yellow petals.

2. The Great Seal of Lincoln shall recognize the history and cultural identity of Lincoln.

3. The Great Seal of Lincoln shall be present and visible in all regional offices and placed upon official podiums within the Council Chamber and the Offices of Governor, Speaker and Chancellor.

Section III: The Official Motto of Lincoln

1. The official motto of Lincoln shall be inscribed in Latin: Verum potestatem facit lex, translated to English: Truth, not power, makes law.

Section IV: The Anthem of Lincoln

1. Lincoln shall have three recognized regional anthems. These shall be as follows.

  a. "Battle Cry of Freedom," written in 1862 by George Frederick Root.

  b. "Solidarity Forever," written in 1914 by Ralph Chaplin.

  c. "This Land is Your Land," written in 1944 by Woody Guthrie.

Section V: The Flower of Lincoln

1. The Carnation shall be recognized as the Official Flower of Lincoln.

Section VI: The Bird of Lincoln

1. The Red-Tailed Hawk shall be recognized as the Official Bird of Lincoln.

Section VII: The Pokémon of Lincoln

1. Bulbasaur shall be recognized as the Official Pokémon of Lincoln, as well as the Official Kanto Starter of Lincoln as per Resolution L 15.11.

2. Arceus shall be recognized as the Official Legendary Pokémon of Lincoln as per Resolution L 15.11.

Section VIII. And The Rest

1. The Official Northern Symbols Act AKA the Northern Regional Symbols Act of 2016 (N141) is hereby repealed.

Section IX: Enactment

1. This bill shall become law upon the signing of the Governor.

Sponsor feedback: Origin
Status: 24 hours for Objection
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2019, 01:03:29 PM »

I object to this amendment, This Land is Your Land is an excellent anthem. The supposed “partisanship”, in which that every person can live on the same land, is ludicrous.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2019, 03:04:32 PM »

Section VII is a literal joke


So, I propose an amendment

I understand the concerns brought forth by the congressman and I would also add that segments of "This Land is Your Land" reference locations which lie beyond the borders of Lincoln.

I'll therefore introduce a short amendment striking it from the bill.

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Lincoln Symbols Act

Section I. The Flag of Lincoln

1. The Flag of Lincoln shall be depicted as thirteen stripes alternating maroon and yellow; the blue-fielded canton of the upper-lefthand side of the flag featuring a yellow sailboat as tribute to our boating and fishing culture, to celebrate and promote the conservation of the region's many lakes and bodies of water, surrounded by a ring of fourteen stars, each representing a single constituent state of Lincoln.

2. The Flag of Lincoln shall recognize the history and cultural identity of Lincoln.

3. The Flag of Lincoln shall be flown above regional offices beside the National Flag of Atlasia.

4. The Governor of Lincoln shall be granted the right to appoint and organize a flag-change committee once per term, with a final decision contingent upon a two-thirds majority in the Lincoln Council.

Section II. The Great Seal of Lincoln

1. The Great Seal of Lincoln shall feature the Liberty Bell in a navy blue background above the Official Motto of Lincoln, the border embroidered with blue rings, surrounded by maroon rings, overlapped by yellow petals.

2. The Great Seal of Lincoln shall recognize the history and cultural identity of Lincoln.

3. The Great Seal of Lincoln shall be present and visible in all regional offices and placed upon official podiums within the Council Chamber and the Offices of Governor, Speaker and Chancellor.

Section III: The Official Motto of Lincoln

1. The official motto of Lincoln shall be inscribed in Latin: Verum potestatem facit lex, translated to English: Truth, not power, makes law.

Section IV: The Anthem of Lincoln

1. Lincoln shall have three recognized regional anthems. These shall be as follows.

  a. "Battle Cry of Freedom," written in 1862 by George Frederick Root.

  b. "Solidarity Forever," written in 1914 by Ralph Chaplin.

  c. "This Land is Your Land," written in 1944 by Woody Guthrie.

Section V: The Flower of Lincoln

1. The Carnation shall be recognized as the Official Flower of Lincoln.

Section VI: The Bird of Lincoln

1. The Red-Tailed Hawk shall be recognized as the Official Bird of Lincoln.

Section VII: The Pokémon of Lincoln

1. Bulbasaur shall be recognized as the Official Pokémon of Lincoln, as well as the Official Kanto Starter of Lincoln as per Resolution L 15.11.

2. Arceus shall be recognized as the Official Legendary Pokémon of Lincoln as per Resolution L 15.11.


Section VIII. And The Rest

1. The Official Northern Symbols Act AKA the Northern Regional Symbols Act of 2016 (N141) is hereby repealed.

Section IX: Animal of Lincoln

1. The White Tailed Deer shall be recognized as the official animal of Lincoln

Section X: Marine Animal of Lincoln

The Atlantic Cod shall be recognized as the official marine animal of Lincoln

Section XI: Insect of Lincoln

The Cicada shall be recognized as the official insect of Lincoln


Section XII: Enactment

1. This bill shall become law upon the signing of the Governor.

Sponsor feedback: Origin
Status: 24 hours for Objection
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2019, 03:15:22 PM »

I object to this amendment, This Land is Your Land is an excellent anthem. The supposed “partisanship”, in which that every person can live on the same land, is ludicrous.

It would make a superb national anthem, but I'm not sure it's best to incorporate it as a regional anthem. Regardless, because of the objection I'll open a vote on it.

Section VII is a literal joke


So, I propose an amendment

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Councilor SNJC, I regret to inform you that Sec VII is based almost entirely on existing law. All this bill would do is update what we presently have as statute in Lincoln. If you wish to do away with Sec VII you would need to repeal the original resolution L 15.11.
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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2019, 03:22:35 PM »

Councilors, a vote is now OPEN on the following amendment:

Amendment L 2:63 by Pyro to LC 2.49 Lincoln Symbols Act

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Lincoln Symbols Act

Section I. The Flag of Lincoln

1. The Flag of Lincoln shall be depicted as thirteen stripes alternating maroon and yellow; the blue-fielded canton of the upper-lefthand side of the flag featuring a yellow sailboat as tribute to our boating and fishing culture, to celebrate and promote the conservation of the region's many lakes and bodies of water, surrounded by a ring of fourteen stars, each representing a single constituent state of Lincoln.

2. The Flag of Lincoln shall recognize the history and cultural identity of Lincoln.

3. The Flag of Lincoln shall be flown above regional offices beside the National Flag of Atlasia.

4. The Governor of Lincoln shall be granted the right to appoint and organize a flag-change committee once per term, with a final decision contingent upon a two-thirds majority in the Lincoln Council.

Section II. The Great Seal of Lincoln

1. The Great Seal of Lincoln shall feature the Liberty Bell in a navy blue background above the Official Motto of Lincoln, the border embroidered with blue rings, surrounded by maroon rings, overlapped by yellow petals.

2. The Great Seal of Lincoln shall recognize the history and cultural identity of Lincoln.

3. The Great Seal of Lincoln shall be present and visible in all regional offices and placed upon official podiums within the Council Chamber and the Offices of Governor, Speaker and Chancellor.

Section III: The Official Motto of Lincoln

1. The official motto of Lincoln shall be inscribed in Latin: Verum potestatem facit lex, translated to English: Truth, not power, makes law.

Section IV: The Anthem of Lincoln

1. Lincoln shall have three recognized regional anthems. These shall be as follows.

  a. "Battle Cry of Freedom," written in 1862 by George Frederick Root.

  b. "Solidarity Forever," written in 1914 by Ralph Chaplin.

  c. "This Land is Your Land," written in 1944 by Woody Guthrie.

Section V: The Flower of Lincoln

1. The Carnation shall be recognized as the Official Flower of Lincoln.

Section VI: The Bird of Lincoln

1. The Red-Tailed Hawk shall be recognized as the Official Bird of Lincoln.

Section VII: The Pokémon of Lincoln

1. Bulbasaur shall be recognized as the Official Pokémon of Lincoln, as well as the Official Kanto Starter of Lincoln as per Resolution L 15.11.

2. Arceus shall be recognized as the Official Legendary Pokémon of Lincoln as per Resolution L 15.11.

Section VIII. And The Rest

1. The Official Northern Symbols Act AKA the Northern Regional Symbols Act of 2016 (N141) is hereby repealed.

Section IX: Enactment

1. This bill shall become law upon the signing of the Governor.

Sponsor Feedback: Origin, Councilor Objection

Please vote AYE, NAY or Abstain
This vote shall last for 24 hours or until all Councilors have voted
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2019, 03:29:40 PM »

Section VII is a literal joke


So, I propose an amendment


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Lincoln Symbols Act

Section I. The Flag of Lincoln

1. The Flag of Lincoln shall be depicted as thirteen stripes alternating maroon and yellow; the blue-fielded canton of the upper-lefthand side of the flag featuring a yellow sailboat as tribute to our boating and fishing culture, to celebrate and promote the conservation of the region's many lakes and bodies of water, surrounded by a ring of fourteen stars, each representing a single constituent state of Lincoln.

2. The Flag of Lincoln shall recognize the history and cultural identity of Lincoln.

3. The Flag of Lincoln shall be flown above regional offices beside the National Flag of Atlasia.

4. The Governor of Lincoln shall be granted the right to appoint and organize a flag-change committee once per term, with a final decision contingent upon a two-thirds majority in the Lincoln Council.

Section II. The Great Seal of Lincoln

1. The Great Seal of Lincoln shall feature the Liberty Bell in a navy blue background above the Official Motto of Lincoln, the border embroidered with blue rings, surrounded by maroon rings, overlapped by yellow petals.

2. The Great Seal of Lincoln shall recognize the history and cultural identity of Lincoln.

3. The Great Seal of Lincoln shall be present and visible in all regional offices and placed upon official podiums within the Council Chamber and the Offices of Governor, Speaker and Chancellor.

Section III: The Official Motto of Lincoln

1. The official motto of Lincoln shall be inscribed in Latin: Verum potestatem facit lex, translated to English: Truth, not power, makes law.

Section IV: The Anthem of Lincoln

1. Lincoln shall have three recognized regional anthems. These shall be as follows.

  a. "Battle Cry of Freedom," written in 1862 by George Frederick Root.

  b. "Solidarity Forever," written in 1914 by Ralph Chaplin.

  c. "This Land is Your Land," written in 1944 by Woody Guthrie.

Section V: The Flower of Lincoln

1. The Carnation shall be recognized as the Official Flower of Lincoln.

Section VI: The Bird of Lincoln

1. The Red-Tailed Hawk shall be recognized as the Official Bird of Lincoln.

Section VII: The Pokémon of Lincoln

1. Bulbasaur shall be recognized as the Official Pokémon of Lincoln, as well as the Official Kanto Starter of Lincoln as per Resolution L 15.11.

2. Arceus shall be recognized as the Official Legendary Pokémon of Lincoln as per Resolution L 15.11.


Section VIII. And The Rest

1. The Official Northern Symbols Act AKA the Northern Regional Symbols Act of 2016 (N141) is hereby repealed.

Section IX: Animal of Lincoln

1. The White Tailed Deer shall be recognized as the official animal of Lincoln

Section X: Marine Animal of Lincoln

The Atlantic Cod shall be recognized as the official marine animal of Lincoln

Section XI: Insect of Lincoln

The Cicada shall be recognized as the official insect of Lincoln

Section XII: Repeal of L 15.11

Resolution L 15.11 is hereby repealed


Section XIII: Enactment

1. This bill shall become law upon the signing of the Governor.

Sponsor feedback: Origin
Status: 24 hours for Objection
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The issue is fixed, this is the new amendment
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2019, 03:34:09 PM »


OK well that covers the bases. Your amendment will be up next.
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« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2019, 03:50:48 PM »

Aye to the amendment on the floor.
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2019, 03:57:28 PM »

Nay, This Land is Your Land has a uniquely American message and we should keep it in the bill
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2019, 04:35:48 PM »

Nay, The song is a great one.
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2019, 08:38:54 AM »

Lincoln Council is now in Final Business Period

The Second Council of Lincoln will dissolve at Midnight EST July 16th
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2019, 08:27:37 PM »

The vote on Amendment L 2:63 by Pyro to LC 2.49 Lincoln Symbols Act is now closed.

Aye: 1 (Pyro)
Nay: 3 (SNJC, PSOL, Thr33)
Abstain: 0
Not Voting: 2 (Zaybay, Dipper Josh)

The amendment fails, and LC 2.49 retains its original text.
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« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2019, 07:51:39 PM »

The most significant update in this legislation is that it would allow the Governor to open a flag-change committee once per term as desired. I believe that our flag is overdue for an upgrade, and this would start that process. The mandated two-thirds majority approval will prevent overly partisan flag designs. (As an aside, I was originally considering "once per year" or "once every two years" but considering the speed of the game, I think once per term is fine.)

Once per term is too often in my opinion. We can't keep discussing changing the flag. Not sure there are that many flag designers out there or if they will want to work on a proposal knowing it can be changed soon after.
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