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« on: June 04, 2019, 01:47:32 pm »

In the blue corner we have pretty boy Carte and in the red corner we have coal Baron Jim
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« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2019, 01:52:33 pm »

In the blue corner we have pretty boy Carte and in the red corner we have coal Baron Jim

I'd say Justice wins an underwhelming victory, especially when compared with Trump on top of the ballot. Goodwin probably wins a handful of counties.

I'm really curious to see how Justice does in the GOP primaries. Will it be close like Bevin v. Goforth?
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2019, 02:07:02 pm »

Justice would beat anyone but Manchin.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2019, 02:18:46 pm »

Justice would beat anyone but Manchin.

Manchin and Ojeda would both make it relatively competitive, but I doubt either would actually win.
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2019, 02:21:25 pm »

Justice wins by ~12, and Goodwin only wins Monongolia and Kanawha
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2019, 02:33:10 pm »

Justice would beat anyone but Manchin.

In addition to beating anyone not named Manchin, he'd also beat Manchin.
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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2019, 09:37:50 pm »

Justice would beat anyone but Manchin.

In addition to beating anyone not named Manchin, he'd also beat Manchin.

That's most likely false.
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2019, 10:35:20 pm »

Will yall quit it with the WV threads? This forum is so obsessed with it it's ridiculous. It's rural and educated and 90% white. The state is gone for D's and they wont vote for Bernie Sanders or Joe Manchin or any democrat! People never learn I swear!
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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2019, 10:51:00 pm »
« Edited: June 04, 2019, 10:58:10 pm by swamiG »

Will yall quit it with the WV threads? This forum is so obsessed with it it's ridiculous. It's rural and educated and 90% white. The state is gone for D's and they wont vote for Bernie Sanders or Joe Manchin or any democrat! People never learn I swear!

Lol stfu this state literally JUST voted for Bad Boy Joe Manchin. He's the undisputed god™ of WV and the #rural #hicks would lovingly embrace their home bad boy despite #polarization trends
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2019, 01:51:02 am »

Justice would beat anyone but Manchin.

In addition to beating anyone not named Manchin, he'd also beat Manchin.

That's most likely false.

Why? If Manchin just scraped by in a good year for Democrats as the incumbent against a weak opponent, why would he win as a challenger in a year that likely won't be as good for Democrats?
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2019, 09:31:17 am »

Justice would beat anyone but Manchin.

In addition to beating anyone not named Manchin, he'd also beat Manchin.

That's most likely false.

Why? If Manchin just scraped by in a good year for Democrats as the incumbent against a weak opponent, why would he win as a challenger in a year that likely won't be as good for Democrats?

This is still the statewide subforum, right?  There is your answer.  It's kind of funny to see the responses here of DEMOCRATS who are almost proud to talk about how their candidates have no chance here because the state has too many undesirables to possibly vote for their party.

The party of the people!
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2019, 10:35:40 am »

Noticed that Justice sometimes has to sit on a chair because of his extreme weight during his SOTS addresses,I'm starting to doubt whether he'll finish back-to-back 4-year terms.



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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2019, 03:55:46 pm »

Justice would beat anyone but Manchin.

In addition to beating anyone not named Manchin, he'd also beat Manchin.

That's most likely false.

Why? If Manchin just scraped by in a good year for Democrats as the incumbent against a weak opponent, why would he win as a challenger in a year that likely won't be as good for Democrats?

This is still the statewide subforum, right?  There is your answer.  It's kind of funny to see the responses here of DEMOCRATS who are almost proud to talk about how their candidates have no chance here because the state has too many undesirables to possibly vote for their party.

The party of the people!

And people accuse me of using strawmen Roll Eyes. Show me where I talked about "undesirables" or "hicks" in my post. I'm simply accepting reality, that 2018 will almost certainly be the last statewide victory for a Democrat in West Virginia for a while. Democratic victories in strongly Republican states have been very few and far in between, and have usually been the result of extremely favorable circumstances. Interesting that you would attack Democrats for not being the party of the people, when Republicans regularly use the most populous parts of the United States as political punching bags.
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« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2019, 10:01:17 pm »

Justice would beat anyone but Manchin.

In addition to beating anyone not named Manchin, he'd also beat Manchin.

That's most likely false.

Why? If Manchin just scraped by in a good year for Democrats as the incumbent against a weak opponent, why would he win as a challenger in a year that likely won't be as good for Democrats?

Because gubernatorial elections are less nationalized than senate elections. Hence why three of the bluest states have Republican governors, but none will elect Republican senators any times soon. And the reverse is true with Louisiana.
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« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2019, 11:36:36 pm »

Yeah, for all the talk about #polarization, it’s honestly remarkable that Manchin was able to win a very nationalized federal race in a Trump +42 state, even with Morrisey’s obvious flaws as a candidate, especially when Trump campaigned against him and WV-SEN was really the only opportunity for WV to express their support of Trump. Underestimating Manchin would be foolish, especially in a state where the then-Democratic candidate for governor outperformed Clinton by like 50 points in a massive Republican wave year. Maybe he wouldn’t win, but I have no doubt that he’d make the race competitive.
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2019, 10:28:16 am »

We need polls from MO, MT and WV
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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2019, 12:43:55 pm »

Is Manchin trolling again ?
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« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2019, 01:00:56 pm »


Yes.
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2019, 02:17:53 pm »

I want Ojeda to run!
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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2019, 02:35:08 pm »

So, uh, this is funny:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/6/10/1863939/-West-Virginia-candidate-wants-to-fix-roads-by-having-folks-drive-British-style-we-think
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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2019, 03:03:57 pm »


Somebody should tell Manchin this: "If you're so obsessed with the WV Governor's Mansion, go get your expletive out there & run for the office yourself!"
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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2019, 04:20:07 pm »


I'm wondering if he's actually as good of a candidate as he seemed in 2018. Like, he's what coastal elites stereotype Appalachians to be like--but does that make him a good candidate?
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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2019, 04:39:50 pm »


I'm wondering if he's actually as good of a candidate as he seemed in 2018. Like, he's what coastal elites stereotype Appalachians to be like--but does that make him a good candidate?

and the main people backing him is TYT
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« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2019, 09:46:14 am »

Manchin, and he would appoint Richard Ojeda to fill his seat
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« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2019, 12:59:01 pm »

Manchin, and he would appoint Richard Ojeda to fill his seat

Doubtful. He'd appoint some DINO because he thinks only such an win the next election. However, if Manchin runs and wins, I'd expect the Republican legislature to change to laws and require a special election within 90 days. Manchin could do nothing about it because he has no veto power or they pass such a bill during the lame duck session.
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