S.19.2-17: C.O.N.F.E.D.E.R.A.T.E. Act [Final Vote]
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Deep Dixieland Senator, Muad'dib (OSR MSR)
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« on: June 06, 2019, 05:43:02 AM »
« edited: June 11, 2019, 03:10:30 AM by Southern Deputy Speaker Muaddib »

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Codifying and Obtaining a New Flag that Exemplifies Defending our Exalted Reality and Achieving True Enlightenment Act
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Section 1; Title
1. This bill may be cited as the Codifying and Obtaining a New Flag that Exemplifies Defending our Exalted Reality and Achieving True Enlightenment Act, or alternatively, the CONFEDERATE Act.

Section 2; Substance
1. The Regional Symbols Act of 2016 is amended by amending the Flag portion to read as follows:
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2. The flag of the South (The Flag) shall consist of a red St. Andrew's cross on a white background, defaced in the center with The Great Seal. a dark blue cross on a rectangular red background, the cross bordered with a thin white line, with three evenly spaced white stars in each of the four quadrants of the cross, and one in the middle, as shown here.

3. The Flag acknowledges the heritage and identity of the South in a historically relevant, inclusive and respectful manner and shall serve as a symbol of unity and pride for all citizens of the South.

4. The Flag shall be flown at all regional government properties that are accessible to the public or where government business is regularly conducted.

5. Where multiple flags are flown beside each other, no flag in the South Region shall be flown at a higher level than The Flag, with the exception of the national Flag of Atlasia.

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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2019, 06:49:39 AM »

This is actually repugnant, and the South should reject this bill, honoring the racist, secessionist Fire-Eaters and traitors
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2019, 05:23:22 PM »

No disrespect to the current Southern flag, but we as a region should have a symbol of unity and strength that brings us together. The flag I'm proposing has a century and a half of history to its name, and has come to be a universally recognized banner of the Southern people.
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2019, 06:32:37 PM »
« Edited: June 06, 2019, 06:43:09 PM by Councilor Suburban New Jersey Conservative »

No disrespect to the current Southern flag, but we as a region should have a symbol of unity and strength that brings us together. The flag I'm proposing has a century and a half of history to its name, and has come to be a universally recognized banner of the Southern people.

A nation of secessionist Fire Eaters, who fought a war about slavery, guising it, as states’ rights, is not honorable. The South deserved to lose, and quite frankly, Reconstruction should been allowed to be fully completed. If the South actually passes a bill honoring the work of people like Preston Brooks, Robert Rhett, David Yulee, Jefferson Davis, and John Breckinridge, all truly evil slaveholding secessionists, it would be a sad day for Atlasia

As a Atlasian Representative, Mr. MB, should have known not to introduce, such a bill. I hope that the South unanimously rejects this racist legislation.
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2019, 09:12:23 PM »

This act is, quite frankly, abhorrent. I do not wish to disrespect the heritage of our great region. However, we must not forget what this flag represents. It represents those who betrayed our great nation. This act would disrespect the brave soldiers who sacrificed themselves to uphold the ideals that Atlasians hold dear. It would disrespect the myriad Africans who were enslaved. It blatantly disrespects our nation, and this must not be allowed.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2019, 11:32:53 PM »

This act is, quite frankly, abhorrent. I do not wish to disrespect the heritage of our great region. However, we must not forget what this flag represents. It represents those who betrayed our great nation. This act would disrespect the brave soldiers who sacrificed themselves to uphold the ideals that Atlasians hold dear. It would disrespect the myriad Africans who were enslaved. It blatantly disrespects our nation, and this must not be allowed.
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2019, 01:47:55 AM »

Any flag of the South should have the approval of the great people of the South! The "Rebel Flag" is indeed the instantly recognizable icon of "Southern States".


Quote from: Codifying and Obtaining a New Flag that Exemplifies Defending our Exalted Reality and Achieving True Enlightenment Act

Section 1; Title
1. This bill may be cited as the Codifying and Obtaining a New Flag that Exemplifies Defending our Exalted Reality and Achieving True Enlightenment Act, or alternatively, the CONFEDERATE Act.

Section 2; Substance
1. The Regional Symbols Act of 2016 is amended by amending the Flag portion to read as follows:
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2. The flag of the South (The Flag) shall consist of a red St. Andrew's cross on a white background, defaced in the center with The Great Seal. shall be determined by a flag chosen by the people of the South via a referendum.

3. The Flag acknowledges the heritage and identity of the South in a historically relevant, inclusive and respectful manner and shall serve as a symbol of unity and pride for all citizens of the South.

4. The Flag shall be flown at all regional government properties that are accessible to the public or where government business is regularly conducted.

5. Where multiple flags are flown beside each other, no flag in the South Region shall be flown at a higher level than The Flag, with the exception of the national Flag of Atlasia.

Section 3: Referendum
1. Flag ideas will be submitted to a council consisting of the Governor of the South, the Speaker of the Chamber and three other people appointed by the Governor of the South.
2: The Council responsible for vetting flags for the Southern region will take suggestions from the people of the South and will take suggestions for a period of 72 hours upon establishment of the council.
3: The approved list by the council will be submitted to the Southern Secretary of State so a public referendum will be held.
4: The Chamber is encouraged to change the flag to whichever one wins the referendum.

Voting on the above amendment to, S.19.2-17: C.O.N.F.E.D.E.R.A.T.E. Act, forwarded by the Southern Governor is now open for the next 24 hours.

Voting Options are:
[   ] Aye
[   ] Nay
[   ] Abstain
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2019, 01:57:18 AM »

AYE
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2019, 07:57:01 AM »
« Edited: June 07, 2019, 05:59:47 PM by PragmaticPopulist »

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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2019, 08:22:05 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2019, 09:07:48 AM »

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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2019, 11:53:42 AM »

abstain
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2019, 05:45:46 PM »

The rebel flag flying over Kansas is an unacceptable outcome: should this pass, the South must immediately cede its claims to the Union states of Delaware, Maryland, Missouri, Kansas, Kentucky, and the District of Columbia.
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2019, 06:00:19 PM »

Because I misunderstood what was being voted on, I have change my vote to be in favor of it.
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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2019, 06:06:44 PM »

Changing my vote to aye as well.
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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2019, 10:45:36 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: June 08, 2019, 01:51:29 AM »
« Edited: June 08, 2019, 02:07:41 AM by Southern Deputy Speaker Muaddib »

Quote from: Codifying and Obtaining a New Flag that Exemplifies Defending our Exalted Reality and Achieving True Enlightenment Act

Section 1; Title
1. This bill may be cited as the Codifying and Obtaining a New Flag that Exemplifies Defending our Exalted Reality and Achieving True Enlightenment Act, or alternatively, the CONFEDERATE Act.

Section 2; Substance
1. The Regional Symbols Act of 2016 is amended by amending the Flag portion to read as follows:
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2. The flag of the South (The Flag) shall consist of a red St. Andrew's cross on a white background, defaced in the center with The Great Seal. shall be determined by a flag chosen by the people of the South via a referendum.

3. The Flag acknowledges the heritage and identity of the South in a historically relevant, inclusive and respectful manner and shall serve as a symbol of unity and pride for all citizens of the South.

4. The Flag shall be flown at all regional government properties that are accessible to the public or where government business is regularly conducted.

5. Where multiple flags are flown beside each other, no flag in the South Region shall be flown at a higher level than The Flag, with the exception of the national Flag of Atlasia.

Section 3: Referendum
1. Flag ideas will be submitted to a council consisting of the Governor of the South, the Speaker of the Chamber and three other people appointed by the Governor of the South.
2: The Council responsible for vetting flags for the Southern region will take suggestions from the people of the South and will take suggestions for a period of 72 hours upon establishment of the council.
3: The approved list by the council will be submitted to the Southern Secretary of State so a public referendum will be held.
4: The Chamber is encouraged to change the flag to whichever one wins the referendum.

Amendment to, S.19.2-17: C.O.N.F.E.D.E.R.A.T.E. Act, passes.

Amendment Vote tally:
[ 5 ] Aye
[ 0 ] Nay
[ 1 ] Abstain
[ 1 ] Absent


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« Reply #17 on: June 08, 2019, 05:34:51 AM »

I cannot condone the idea of us adopting the Confederate Flag as our regional flag, but I can support  a referendum over the flag in which, presumably, a variety of designs will be put forth.
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« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2019, 09:40:31 PM »

I motion for a final vote.

The great people of the south will have a in the flag of our great southern region.
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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2019, 06:05:42 PM »

I’d like to thank the Chamber for adopting the amendment, i think this is the right step, actually allowing the people to decide this will be perfect.
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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2019, 02:23:25 AM »

There being no objections S.19.2-17: C.O.N.F.E.D.E.R.A.T.E. Act will be put to a final vote.
Sound the bells (delegates will be DM'd). Voting will last for 48 hours.

The bill reads as follows:

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Codifying and Obtaining a New Flag that Exemplifies Defending our Exalted Reality and Achieving True Enlightenment Act

Section 1; Title
1. This bill may be cited as the Codifying and Obtaining a New Flag that Exemplifies Defending our Exalted Reality and Achieving True Enlightenment Act, or alternatively, the CONFEDERATE Act.

Section 2; Substance
1. The Regional Symbols Act of 2016 is amended by amending the Flag portion to read as follows:
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2. The flag of the South (The Flag) shall consist of a red St. Andrew's cross on a white background, defaced in the center with The Great Seal. shall be determined by a flag chosen by the people of the South via a referendum.

3. The Flag acknowledges the heritage and identity of the South in a historically relevant, inclusive and respectful manner and shall serve as a symbol of unity and pride for all citizens of the South.

4. The Flag shall be flown at all regional government properties that are accessible to the public or where government business is regularly conducted.

5. Where multiple flags are flown beside each other, no flag in the South Region shall be flown at a higher level than The Flag, with the exception of the national Flag of Atlasia.

Section 3: Referendum
1. Flag ideas will be submitted to a council consisting of the Governor of the South, the Speaker of the Chamber and three other people appointed by the Governor of the South.
2: The Council responsible for vetting flags for the Southern region will take suggestions from the people of the South and will take suggestions for a period of 72 hours upon establishment of the council.
3: The approved list by the council will be submitted to the Southern Secretary of State so a public referendum will be held.
4: The Chamber is encouraged to change the flag to whichever one wins the referendum.


Voting options are:
[   ] Aye
[   ] Nay
[   ] Abstain
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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2019, 03:26:04 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2019, 04:15:25 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2019, 06:06:15 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: June 11, 2019, 10:06:25 AM »

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