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« Reply #75 on: June 13, 2019, 12:29:25 PM »

I myself am a highschool student. I go to school in a Likely D county that swung strongly democrat in 2016 and 2018 and my district encompasses mostly Lean D precincts that swung strongly to democrats both those years.

This school is overwhelmingly Republican, and that title extends from disgruntled Never-Trumpers to Turning Point America and PragerU addicts to the, uh, you know. Of course there are a lot of democrats but I would say that a plurality if not a majority of my peers are right of center.

The overall mood among students is a disliking of Trump's personality but support of his policies. There is no liberal group here but there is a Young Americans for Freedom group (which I am a part of) which has about 70 members, and most of them are actually female surprisingly. I will say my school is mostly white (about 75%) but it still goes to show that from an insider perspective, the "Gen Z is liberal" meme is bogus and is being pushed on us without a basis.

Your basis is literally "my high school is overwhelmingly republican." That's it.
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« Reply #76 on: June 13, 2019, 12:32:09 PM »

I myself am a highschool student. I go to school in a Likely D county that swung strongly democrat in 2016 and 2018 and my district encompasses mostly Lean D precincts that swung strongly to democrats both those years.

(1) This school is overwhelmingly Republican, and that title extends from disgruntled Never-Trumpers to Turning Point America and PragerU addicts to the, uh, you know. Of course there are a lot of democrats but I would say that a plurality if not a majority of my peers are right of center.

The overall mood among students is a disliking of Trump's personality but support of his policies. (1) There is no liberal group here but there is a Young Americans for Freedom group (which I am a part of) which has about 70 members, and most of them are actually female surprisingly. I will say my school is mostly white (about 75%)

(2) but it still goes to show that from an insider perspective, the "Gen Z is liberal" meme is bogus and is being pushed on us without a basis.

You admit to being in a bubble (1), yet use that as anecdotal evidence to generalize to the political inclinations of an entire generation of voters that exist outside that bubble (2).

Nothing suggests what you claim as a general phenomenon.
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« Reply #77 on: June 13, 2019, 12:36:26 PM »

I myself am a highschool student. I go to school in a Likely D county that swung strongly democrat in 2016 and 2018 and my district encompasses mostly Lean D precincts that swung strongly to democrats both those years.

This school is overwhelmingly Republican, and that title extends from disgruntled Never-Trumpers to Turning Point America and PragerU addicts to the, uh, you know. Of course there are a lot of democrats but I would say that a plurality if not a majority of my peers are right of center.

The overall mood among students is a disliking of Trump's personality but support of his policies. There is no liberal group here but there is a Young Americans for Freedom group (which I am a part of) which has about 70 members, and most of them are actually female surprisingly. I will say my school is mostly white (about 75%) but it still goes to show that from an insider perspective, the "Gen Z is liberal" meme is bogus and is being pushed on us without a basis.

Your basis is literally "my high school is overwhelmingly republican." That's it.

And other high schools too. Gen Z culture basically revolves around offending people constantly. Being rebellious is cool and it's rebellious to be conservative now.
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« Reply #78 on: June 13, 2019, 01:06:21 PM »

I myself am a highschool student. I go to school in a Likely D county that swung strongly democrat in 2016 and 2018 and my district encompasses mostly Lean D precincts that swung strongly to democrats both those years.

This school is overwhelmingly Republican, and that title extends from disgruntled Never-Trumpers to Turning Point America and PragerU addicts to the, uh, you know. Of course there are a lot of democrats but I would say that a plurality if not a majority of my peers are right of center.

The overall mood among students is a disliking of Trump's personality but support of his policies. There is no liberal group here but there is a Young Americans for Freedom group (which I am a part of) which has about 70 members, and most of them are actually female surprisingly. I will say my school is mostly white (about 75%) but it still goes to show that from an insider perspective, the "Gen Z is liberal" meme is bogus and is being pushed on us without a basis.

This sounds a lot like the Catholic high school I went to, which was in the process of shifting from a "working-class" school to an upper middle-class school. I don't know what type of school you're at, but any given school is probably not going to be representative just due to the history of education in this country.
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« Reply #79 on: June 13, 2019, 01:36:45 PM »

Most high school students here generally tend to testify to a conservative lean in their generation. At the end of the day liberalism has gotten way too sanctimonious. That is the problem. Most young people just want to be free and enjoy life, not worry about offending someone's feeling all the time. It's not that conservatives aren't serious, but you can joke around. Conservatives start out with a normal perspective. Liberals start out with a super rigid framework. Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert made liberalism fun for Millennials, their shows ended in 2014.
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« Reply #80 on: June 13, 2019, 01:42:13 PM »

These hot takes are scalding.  Tears of joy
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« Reply #81 on: June 13, 2019, 01:53:13 PM »
« Edited: June 13, 2019, 01:56:42 PM by Statilius the Epicurean »

The explanation for all of these "Generation Z is conservative!!!" takes is probably the racial and gender gap within the GenZ generation in the US. If you consider how brown GenZ is, the political views of a very white school is likely going to be atypical of the generation as a whole. People might be misinterpreting a certain amount of whitelash as representative of GenZers in general.
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« Reply #82 on: June 13, 2019, 02:32:52 PM »

Is it me or are all these takes on the politics of high school students like completely absurd?

I mean, I don't know what it's like in America, but in my high school basically no-one talked about politics, outside of very broad sweeping statements, like, ever.
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« Reply #83 on: June 13, 2019, 03:43:17 PM »

Most high school students here generally tend to testify to a conservative lean in their generation. At the end of the day liberalism has gotten way too sanctimonious. That is the problem. Most young people just want to be free and enjoy life, not worry about offending someone's feeling all the time. It's not that conservatives aren't serious, but you can joke around. Conservatives start out with a normal perspective. Liberals start out with a super rigid framework. Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert made liberalism fun for Millennials, their shows ended in 2014.

The explanation for all of these "Generation Z is conservative!!!" takes is probably the racial and gender gap within the GenZ generation in the US. If you consider how brown GenZ is, the political views of a very white school is likely going to be atypical of the generation as a whole. People might be misinterpreting a certain amount of whitelash as representative of GenZers in general.

The other thing to take into account is that Atlas is, as it always has been, very heavily male (in addition to being heavily white) and while White Male Gen-Zers may be a bit more right-wing than White Male Millennials, that won't help the GOP with winning elections much as Gen-Z is much less white and I've seen no evidence that Gen-Z Females are to the right of Millennial Females.
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« Reply #84 on: June 13, 2019, 03:53:47 PM »

I myself am a highschool student. I go to school in a Likely D county that swung strongly democrat in 2016 and 2018 and my district encompasses mostly Lean D precincts that swung strongly to democrats both those years.

This school is overwhelmingly Republican, and that title extends from disgruntled Never-Trumpers to Turning Point America and PragerU addicts to the, uh, you know. Of course there are a lot of democrats but I would say that a plurality if not a majority of my peers are right of center.

The overall mood among students is a disliking of Trump's personality but support of his policies. There is no liberal group here but there is a Young Americans for Freedom group (which I am a part of) which has about 70 members, and most of them are actually female surprisingly. I will say my school is mostly white (about 75%) but it still goes to show that from an insider perspective, the "Gen Z is liberal" meme is bogus and is being pushed on us without a basis.
i myself am a high school student as well. i go to school in a lean D town that swung strongly democrat in 2016 and 2018. this school is pretty democratic. of course there are a lot of republicans but i would say that a plurality if not a majority of my peers are left of center. my school is also white (probably around 75% too) and this shows that from an insider perspective, gen Z is actually liberal.
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« Reply #85 on: June 13, 2019, 04:05:51 PM »

I'll agree that Gen Z is fed up with the status quo. That's why we're all getting breadpilled into becoming edgy Internet socialists.
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« Reply #86 on: June 13, 2019, 04:17:01 PM »

The explanation for all of these "Generation Z is conservative!!!" takes is probably the racial and gender gap within the GenZ generation in the US. If you consider how brown GenZ is, the political views of a very white school is likely going to be atypical of the generation as a whole. People might be misinterpreting a certain amount of whitelash as representative of GenZers in general.

This.  Furthermore, if millenials and Gen Z are roughly voting along the same lines, and Gen Z is less white than millenials, then it obviously follows that white Gen Z-ers are more conservative than white millenials.  But of course that doesn't mean Gen Z as a whole is more conservative.
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« Reply #87 on: June 13, 2019, 06:14:02 PM »

If Gen Z'ers are fed up with the status quo, why would they support more right wing policies that have cemented the status quo, as is? That's a good reason why Millenials aren't buying it. This economy isn't working for us because it isn't made for us. Changes have to be made.

Probably because right wing policies don't cement the status quo

Right wing ideology is inherently based around the status quo, if not that then it's to take things further backwards too.

Wrong but your PM score says enough

I wasn't trying to conservatives with that statement-it's just that the word itself basically is synonymous with the status quo. I don't know what else to say. Like it or not, your ideology is the one that wants to keep things mostly the same, or wants to revert things back to a previous state. Trump's slogan of "Make America Great Again" and why it was so appealing basically says it all.
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« Reply #88 on: June 13, 2019, 06:40:39 PM »

If Gen Z'ers are fed up with the status quo, why would they support more right wing policies that have cemented the status quo, as is? That's a good reason why Millenials aren't buying it. This economy isn't working for us because it isn't made for us. Changes have to be made.

Probably because right wing policies don't cement the status quo

Right wing ideology is inherently based around the status quo, if not that then it's to take things further backwards too.

Wrong but your PM score says enough

I wasn't trying to conservatives with that statement-it's just that the word itself basically is synonymous with the status quo. I don't know what else to say. Like it or not, your ideology is the one that wants to keep things mostly the same, or wants to revert things back to a previous state. Trump's slogan of "Make America Great Again" and why it was so appealing basically says it all.

Being right-wing and against the "status quo" isn't called being a conservative. It is called being reactionary.
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« Reply #89 on: June 13, 2019, 06:42:10 PM »
« Edited: June 13, 2019, 06:49:04 PM by Progressive Pessimist »

If Gen Z'ers are fed up with the status quo, why would they support more right wing policies that have cemented the status quo, as is? That's a good reason why Millenials aren't buying it. This economy isn't working for us because it isn't made for us. Changes have to be made.

Probably because right wing policies don't cement the status quo

Right wing ideology is inherently based around the status quo, if not that then it's to take things further backwards too.

Wrong but your PM score says enough

I wasn't trying to conservatives with that statement-it's just that the word itself basically is synonymous with the status quo. I don't know what else to say. Like it or not, your ideology is the one that wants to keep things mostly the same, or wants to revert things back to a previous state. Trump's slogan of "Make America Great Again" and why it was so appealing basically says it all.

Being right-wing and against the "status quo" isn't called being a conservative. It is called being reactionary.

Well, I referenced that in my first post that if they aren't for the status quo, then they want to take things backwards. I guess I wrongly assumed that DeadPrez wasn't a reactionary.
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« Reply #90 on: June 14, 2019, 03:58:35 PM »

Gen Z culture basically revolves around offending people constantly.

Ghastly and pathetic if true.
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« Reply #91 on: June 14, 2019, 04:11:17 PM »

If Gen Z'ers are fed up with the status quo, why would they support more right wing policies that have cemented the status quo, as is? That's a good reason why Millenials aren't buying it. This economy isn't working for us because it isn't made for us. Changes have to be made.

Probably because right wing policies don't cement the status quo

Right wing ideology is inherently based around the status quo, if not that then it's to take things further backwards too.

Wrong but your PM score says enough

I wasn't trying to conservatives with that statement-it's just that the word itself basically is synonymous with the status quo. I don't know what else to say. Like it or not, your ideology is the one that wants to keep things mostly the same, or wants to revert things back to a previous state. Trump's slogan of "Make America Great Again" and why it was so appealing basically says it all.


I mean in the traditional sense liberal=progress conservative=status quo but we rarely ever treat it like this in political terms. You know this.
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« Reply #92 on: June 14, 2019, 04:17:53 PM »

Is it me or are all these takes on the politics of high school students like completely absurd?

I mean, I don't know what it's like in America, but in my high school basically no-one talked about politics, outside of very broad sweeping statements, like, ever.
It's even dumber when you consider most of Gen Z are YOUNGER than high school now.
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« Reply #93 on: June 14, 2019, 06:39:28 PM »

Is it me or are all these takes on the politics of high school students like completely absurd?

I mean, I don't know what it's like in America, but in my high school basically no-one talked about politics, outside of very broad sweeping statements, like, ever.

High schoolers tend to mimic their parents when it comes to politics, and almost certainly change once they reach adulthood.

I, for instance, registered on this forum as "GWBFan" and now vote Democratic on every single office.
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« Reply #94 on: June 14, 2019, 08:23:30 PM »

Guys, my high school was pretty Republican too, therefore Millennials are a strongly R generation.
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« Reply #95 on: June 14, 2019, 09:19:24 PM »

My High school was 80-20 Democratic in an area that didn't even give Tom Wolf 70% of the vote.
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« Reply #96 on: June 14, 2019, 09:53:39 PM »

Gen Z culture basically revolves around offending people constantly.

Ghastly and pathetic if true.

It isn't, and you all should just be smart and put Grassr00ts on ignore already. He's a useless and unconstructive troll.
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« Reply #97 on: June 15, 2019, 04:09:04 PM »


I know it isn't.

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and you all should just be smart and put Grassr00ts on ignore already. He's a useless and unconstructive troll.

I'm actually having a lot of fun responding to this sort of bullsh**t. If I stop having fun then I'll put him on ignore.
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« Reply #98 on: June 15, 2019, 06:56:31 PM »

Gen Z culture basically revolves around offending people constantly.

Ghastly and pathetic if true.

It isn't, and you all should just be smart and put Grassr00ts on ignore already. He's a useless and unconstructive troll.

Aww, you are so freakin nice!
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« Reply #99 on: June 15, 2019, 06:58:30 PM »

Gen Z culture basically revolves around offending people constantly.

Ghastly and pathetic if true.

It isn't, and you all should just be smart and put Grassr00ts on ignore already. He's a useless and unconstructive troll.

Aww, you are so freakin nice!

In all seriousness though, I am literally saying what is true.

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