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« on: June 14, 2019, 11:48:14 PM »

These graduation requirements are not correct, a standardized test should be required, also the amount of periods for subject and the length of the school day is too short
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2019, 08:52:20 AM »
« Edited: June 24, 2019, 08:55:38 AM by Councilor Suburban New Jersey Conservative »

I have some issue

First, you cannot have .5 of a lesson


Second one, this format is only good for vocational schools

I'll be introducing an amendment, soon


Also a curriculum should state the goals of that class


Ex:

Geometry: To be able to analyze the relationships of planes
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« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2019, 09:10:09 AM »

I have some issue

First, you cannot have .5 of a lesson


Second one, this format is only good for vocational schools

I'll be introducing an amendment, soon

Regarding .5 of a lesson, that normally means one of these things in my experience:

1: The exact lesson changes every 2 weeks. So the one week you will have Math and the next English language and literature and then math the following week, etc.

2: Half the class goes to one lesson and half to the other lesson, and again this changes every 2 weeks (I don't think this one would happen in practice in the US though as fixed classes don't exist?)

3: The lesson changes once in the school year. So half the school year you will have Math on that slot and the other half you will have English language & literature for example

As for the "this is only good for vocational schools" argument, could you elaborate a bit more?


You are forcing people to pick Arts, Humanities, or Sciences, when instead, they should have to take classes in all three subjects

I recommend using this as a starting point for an amendment
http://www.corestandards.org/wp-content/uploads/ELA_Standards1.pdf
http://www.corestandards.org/wp-content/uploads/Math_Standards1.pdf
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2019, 01:13:24 PM »

Here's what I think


Elementary: 8:25-3:10
Middle: 8:05-2:45
High: 7:45-2:20

lol no. The 7:20 am will kill rural High Schoolers. A bus could be as early as 6:30 or even more meaning they will have to get up before 6.

I wasn't a rural high schooler but my bus ride itself took over an hour for the students on the 1st stop.

This isn't really an issue, I wake up around 6 every day, and reach school around 7:10
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2019, 01:15:02 PM »

No objection.

Though if we are lengthening hours all the way to 4:30 pm we should offer some sort of free meal, at least for primary and middle school kids right?

I can't imagine a 12 year old having to wait until 5:00 pm to eat lunch!

I'm flexible on the exact hours - edited them a bit.

The problem with those schedules is that they wouldn't allow for the whole range of lessons (or would mean a shorter recess).

7 lessons of 50 minutes plus a 30 minute recess means a school day needs to last for 6 hours and 20 minutes in total. Would this be any better?:

Primary school: 8:30-14:50
Middle school: 9:00-15:20
High school: 8:00-14:20

This does only have 30 minute delays between school years instead of 1 hour ones though.

 I think having 8 lessons of 40 min, each, makes more sense
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2019, 01:29:59 PM »

No objection.

Though if we are lengthening hours all the way to 4:30 pm we should offer some sort of free meal, at least for primary and middle school kids right?

I can't imagine a 12 year old having to wait until 5:00 pm to eat lunch!

I'm flexible on the exact hours - edited them a bit.

The problem with those schedules is that they wouldn't allow for the whole range of lessons (or would mean a shorter recess).

7 lessons of 50 minutes plus a 30 minute recess means a school day needs to last for 6 hours and 20 minutes in total. Would this be any better?:

Primary school: 8:30-14:50
Middle school: 9:00-15:20
High school: 8:00-14:20

This does only have 30 minute delays between school years instead of 1 hour ones though.

 I think having 8 lessons of 40 min, each, makes more sense

Huh. Well that is definitely an interesting proposal. I believe a 40 minute lesson is too short but I am willing to take it into consideration if others want.

I will say that is actually less school time than the current proposal (320 minutes per day, compared to 350 minutes under the current plan)

Tack my school uses an 8 period method, and 9 in Elementary and Middle, if I remember correctly

My current schedule

1: Elective
2: Physical Education
3: Science
4: Foreign Language
5: Required Elective
Between 5 and 6: Lunch (20 min)
6: Mathematics
7. History
8: English

The day goes from 7:45-2:20

With 7 periods you run out of time, especially since either Math or English is often double-period in middle and/or elementary
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2019, 03:34:10 PM »

Aye on this bill


However, Mr. Speaker, I find this provision concerning, and would support an amendment reducing the holiday recess.
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