1976: Jackson (D) vs Ford (R)
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« on: November 26, 2005, 06:49:42 PM »

Senator Henry Jackson wins the Democratic primaries and challenges Gerald Ford in the general election.

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« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2005, 06:43:00 AM »
« Edited: November 27, 2005, 06:45:22 AM by Alcon »

Quite frankly, Jackson walked on water, at least in Washington.  He received 82% of the vote in his first election, against a viable Republican.  He continued to win landslides up until his final 69% victory in 1982.  Jackson never, in any of his elections, lost any of Washington's 39 counties.  The most conservative counties gave him some of his largest margins of victory, in fact.

I have a lot of respect for him, and he certainly would have received my vote - and probably would have totally dispatched Ford.
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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2005, 07:20:44 AM »

Jackson was exceptional.   Who would be the running mates?
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« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2005, 10:29:36 AM »

I'd vote for Ford, although he'd probably lose.
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2005, 11:45:53 AM »

Tough decision, but Jackson/Jackson.
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2005, 12:39:21 PM »


I echo that.
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2005, 12:57:19 PM »

Ford/Jackson
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2005, 04:48:36 PM »

Ford/Jackson

As Alcon says...he was an incredible candidate.
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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2005, 07:16:10 PM »

A big win for Jackson

Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson WA/Senator Lawton Chiles FL    415
President Gerald Ford MI/Senator Bob Dole KS                             123

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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2005, 12:52:30 PM »

Jackson in a heart beat.
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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2005, 09:33:21 PM »



Jackson 366
Ford 172

Jackson runs about even with Carter in the South, even increased margins in some areas because of Hawkish stance on foreign policy, swing Virginia.  He then also brings to the Democratic column the very close states of Iowa, Illinois, Oregon, New Mexico, and South Dakota.
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2005, 10:24:58 PM »



Jackson 366
Ford 172

Jackson runs about even with Carter in the South, even increased margins in some areas because of Hawkish stance on foreign policy, swing Virginia.  He then also brings to the Democratic column the very close states of Iowa, Illinois, Oregon, New Mexico, and South Dakota.

I think most of you are overestimating Jackson's support in the South.  He might a few states like Arkansas, Georgia, and Texas, but otherwise not many.  Look at 1972.  It was not just McGovern's fault that he lost the South so badly.  It was because National Democrats were  viewed unfavorably.  Carter won the South by such a large margin because was a "Southerner and an American and in that order."
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2005, 07:28:37 PM »

I think we need shaded maps.
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2005, 07:41:15 PM »

Jackson/Jackson

He mightave taken Indiana actually; the state is very blue collar and at the time had one of the highest Union densities in the country (deindustrialisation hath since weakend this markedly). Possibly Michigan as well; the same factors apply and Ford only beat Carter there by 5pts.
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« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2005, 07:43:45 PM »

jackson wins 441 to 97, perhaps I'm being a bit too optimistic? I wasn't sure how well he would do in the South or the Northeast. I know I'm pushing it with Alaska but oh well. Smiley

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« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2005, 07:45:44 PM »

jackson wins 441 to 97, perhaps I'm being a bit too optimistic? I wasn't sure how well he would do in the South or the Northeast. I know I'm pushing it with Alaska but oh well. Smiley





That's better. Wink
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2005, 09:04:30 PM »

His southern support is over-estimated.
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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2005, 09:19:35 PM »

Ford. I would never vote for that imperalistic warmonger Jackson.
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2005, 10:10:04 PM »

Jackson wasn't exactly a national democrat as we would classify it now.  He was certainly of the populist-leaning oldstyle democrat mold, and his hawkish stances would also garner support for him in the South.  Don't forget this is against Ford, who did well in suburban areas but collapsed in rural areas (especially Southern) and many cities.  I see no reason why the South, which parts of went for landslides for Carter, would swing all the way to Ford.
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2005, 03:36:55 PM »

Was Jackson a hawkish Carter?
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2005, 04:39:58 PM »

Scoop/Scoop
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2005, 04:42:15 PM »

Ford/Ford.
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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2006, 06:13:15 PM »

Jackson/Jackson.

Although I don't think Scoop would've ran away with it, I belive he would've won easier than Carter did.
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