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« on: July 01, 2019, 07:59:00 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2019, 01:46:39 PM »

CS monitor had Reagan up 241-155 a week before election:


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Other political experts think the electoral tilt toward Reagan is so persistent that it will resist late-hour change. "We have not seen the day of this campaign that Reagan wouldn't have won if a vote was taken," says Robert Teeter, the highly regarded Republic pollster from Michigan. "The greater likelihood is that nothing will happen to offset the strong tilt toward Reagan in the closing days."

The Monitor composite count finds 48 electoral votes strong for Carter: Hawaii in the West; Rhode Island in the East; Georgia, Arkansas, West Virginia, North Carolina, and the District of Columbia in the South-border state region.

Leaning to Carter are 107 electoral votes: Minnesota and Missouri in the Midwest; Alabama, South Carolina, and Maryland in the South; New York, Delaware, and Massachusetts in the East.

In doubt are Oregon in the West; Wisconsin, Illinois, and Michigan in the Midwest; Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Kentucky in the South-border area; Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Vermont, and Maine in the East.

Leaning to Reagan are 163 electoral votes: Washington, California, and New Mexico in the West; Iowa and Ohio in the Midwest; Texas, Florida, and Virginia in the South; New Jersey in the East.

Strong for Reagan, 78 votes: Nevada, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, Arizona, Alaska in the West; North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, and Indiana in the Midwest; Oklahoma in the Southborder, and New Hampshire in the East


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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2019, 11:34:25 PM »

To be completely honest, Carter has absolutely no excuse to lose any of the states that he lost by less than 5 percent, states he should have easily won with even an average set of campaigning skills. Great man, but quite honestly one of the worst campaigners in the history of presidents

Not really

-  The Worst economy since the 1930s and things were only getting worse
- Multiple And Visible Failures Abroad
- Very little polarization and the 80s were probably the least polarizing decade since the 50s



Reagan’s debate performance  was also overrated , reason he  surged after debates was voters wanted any reason to vote against Carter but also were scared Reagan would be a crazy war monger . Once that was proven not to be true , Carter was going to lose in a landslide
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2019, 09:26:57 PM »


There's an interesting article I found on the prospects of Carter losing the South from July 1980:

Will Jimmy Carter destroy the Democratic Party?

Seems like the Carter campaign saw Missouri as a swing state but Arkansas wasn't even considered one:



That map is extremely hard to read as Both the Reagan and carter states are marked with the same color
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2019, 05:35:02 PM »

I don't think we had state by state polling back then, but the consensus was that Reagan would win by 2-4 points nationally, so his landslide win was a shocker.

Reagan 1980: 50.7%
Obama 2012: 51.1%

The EC is a deceptive representation of what happened in that election.


Carter got 41% while Romney got 47.2% and Anderson at most got 60% of Carter voters while at least 40% them would have voted for Reagan.


Reagan win by basically 10 points is still a landslide
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