Joe Biden 2020 campaign megathread v2

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

So what is Biden hiding that explains why so many Democratic insiders are freaking out right now?

It's hard to understand their concern given the level of excitement among primary voters. They're telling pollsters that that they are as satisfied with this field as any in recent history, and donating to candidates like never before.

So, what's the deal? Is it a scandal? Is Biden's health worse than it appears?

Bloomberg has his own agenda and the means to do as he pleases, so his antics arguably need no explanation, but the whisper campaign surrounding Deval Patrick suggests a feeling that is more widespread, perhaps even extending to Obama, who is close with Patrick.

Excellent questions.

It really does look like a sort of corporatist-establishment panic right now, and I don't see any obvious reasons for it. Sure, Biden isn't running away with the nomination, and his health is something to potentially be concerned about, but I don't see any signs of any sort of "Biden collapse" brewing.

Maybe they just really want to have a strongly moderate (<cough> pro-Wall Street<cough>) Biden-like alternative standing by just in case he has a heart attack or something?

[Proud Independent]

This one is pretty simple, don't nominate Biden if you do your pretty much giving Trump another four years? Why?

1). He geniunly looks sick, if I had to bet dementia

2). Trump would stomp him on the debate stage

3). He won't win, remember Clinton was suppose to win in 2016 according to the polls.

4). He comes off like he doesn't want to be POTUS at all, not to mention his former boss who he sometimes can't remember even told advised him not to run.

Nominate Buttigieg. He's the dems best shot. He'll run an actual campaign thats for the current era effectively. And he's wicked smart.

DON'T. NOMINATE. BIDEN.

Proud Independent

[Comrade Funk]

Hey everyone, it's Shadow's centrist cousin!

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

This one is pretty simple, don't nominate Biden if you do your pretty much giving Trump another four years? Why?

1). He geniunly looks sick, if I had to bet dementia

2). Trump would stomp him on the debate stage

3). He won't win, remember Clinton was suppose to win in 2016 according to the polls.

4). He comes off like he doesn't want to be POTUS at all, not to mention his former boss who he sometimes can't remember even told advised him not to run.

Nominate Buttigieg. He's the dems best shot. He'll run an actual campaign thats for the current era effectively. And he's wicked smart.

DON'T. NOMINATE. BIDEN.

Proud Independent

How is no. 3 an argument?

"The polls in 2016....so...Biden won't win!"

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Sorry, but it looks like he will be the nominee.

[GeneralMacArthur]

not to mention his former boss who he sometimes can't remember even told advised him not to run

This sentence doesn't make sense.  Do you have dementia or something?

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[96FJV]

He will run a modern era campaign? His policies are literally no different from Biden.

[Grassroots]

He will run a modern era campaign? His policies are literally no different from Biden.

What are you talking about? And you have to be a sock of OP.

[Penn_Quaker_Girl]

He will run a modern era campaign? His policies are literally no different from Biden.

What are you talking about? And you have to be a sock of OP.

Sockgate!

[President Johnson]

1.) He doesn't look sick and he'll release medical records as promised. I think he wouldn't have jumped in if doctors advised him against.

2.) Lmao, Trump's debate skills are vastly overrated. This guy is just talking nonsense and has no idea/no knowledge about major issues. His debate performance for the general election in 2016 were utterly terrible, and he seems to be getting more senile by the day. He's certainly no strong debater against anyone who has a little knowledge and the ability to speak to audiences.

3.) Final polls in 2016 battlegrounds weren't that off. Also, hardly an argument why Biden shouldn't be the nominee. Ever since 2017, he's consistently beaten Trump in polls by fair margins, both nationwide and in most battlegrounds.

4.) Of course he wants to be president, he wanted it for the better part of his political career. Whether you like his policies or not, but he has presented a substantial program if elected. He wants to reverse the damage Trump has done and build on Barack Obama's legacy and get to the next level.

[DINGO Joe]

Adorable. (Pats on head)

[President Johnson]

Uncle Joe goes after Medicare for all proposal by Liz Warren. I think he did well in the CNN Townhall, though I'm probably biased.

[Illini Moderate]

This one is pretty simple, don't nominate Biden if you do your pretty much giving Trump another four years? Why?

1). He geniunly looks sick, if I had to bet dementia

2). Trump would stomp him on the debate stage

3). He won't win, remember Clinton was suppose to win in 2016 according to the polls.

4). He comes off like he doesn't want to be POTUS at all, not to mention his former boss who he sometimes can't remember even told advised him not to run.

Nominate Buttigieg. He's the dems best shot. He'll run an actual campaign thats for the current era effectively. And he's wicked smart.

DON'T. NOMINATE. BIDEN.

Proud Independent

1.) obviously you’ve never seen an actual person with dementia if you think Biden’s gaffes constitutes Dementia.

2.) How so? Biden is better arguing against republicans than arguing against Democrats from the center

3.) this point is a logical fallacy

4.) How does he come off as not wanting to be POTUS? He’s running for a third time, clearly he wants it. And Obama told him not to run because his son had just died and he wanted a woman to succeed him

[Mr. Smith]

This one is pretty simple, don't nominate Biden if you do your pretty much giving Trump another four years? Why?

1). He geniunly looks sick, if I had to bet dementia

2). Trump would stomp him on the debate stage

3). He won't win, remember Clinton was suppose to win in 2016 according to the polls.

4). He comes off like he doesn't want to be POTUS at all, not to mention his former boss who he sometimes can't remember even told advised him not to run.

Nominate Buttigieg. He's the dems best shot. He'll run an actual campaign thats for the current era effectively. And he's wicked smart.

DON'T. NOMINATE. BIDEN.

Proud Independent

1.) obviously you’ve never seen an actual person with dementia if you think Biden’s gaffes constitutes Dementia.

2.) How so? Biden is better arguing against republicans than arguing against Democrats from the center

3.) this point is a logical fallacy

4.) How does he come off as not wanting to be POTUS? He’s running for a third time, clearly he wants it. And Obama told him not to run because his son had just died and he wanted a woman to succeed him

1. Obviously neither have you if you don't see how someone could think that.

2. And exactly which liberals or left-of-liberals are gonna turn out for someone who keeps hitting the dead-center each time?

3. True, but such facts are silly things anyway.

4. If he actually wanted to run, there'd be a lot more effort out of him, but he's mostly been coasting. He clearly knew 2016 was his shot, and he's regretted letting in Trump since. If there were any other reason, he'd have it...but instead, he's as empty of referendum person as John Kerry, Mittens, Bob Dole, or Walter Mondale.

[Bidenworth2020]

Uncle Joe goes after Medicare for all proposal by Liz Warren. I think he did well in the CNN Townhall, though I'm probably biased.

Wow, this was amazing. Looks like that speech coach is paying off!

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1194302761283788803

[Beet]

CNN is doing townhalls again? If they are giving Biden a townhall they should give the other candidates one as well. I'd like to see Warren have a chance to respond to this.

[Frodo]

Democrat Joe Biden proposes $1.3 trillion U.S. infrastructure plan

[American2020]

This is the scenario I'm talking about for the Democratic primaries.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1195119969450762240

[American2020]

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1195198279019044865

[OneJ]

This is the scenario I'm talking about for the Democratic primaries.

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1195119969450762240

I don't think anyone is necessarily doubting that a scenario of this sort would happen. I certainly don't.

However, what could also happen is that Biden does poorly in both IA and NH and maybe a close win/loss in NV which could stunt his opportunity to net more delegates in SC. This is a nationwide primary that goes on for a long period of time and not held on a single day, so momentum is key to an extent. Remember, there is a big difference between winning SC by 30+ points and winning them by <20 points. The same goes for the Biden-favorable Super Tuesday states.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

As we go deep into the South, the South is gonna rebel against Pete Buttigieg and Warren due to LGBT, just like it did with Hilary, when SCOTUS was on the ballot in 2016; whereas, Obama said he wasnt defending, the Bill Clinton defense of marriage act.

It's sad, that in today's society, that LGBT is a problem for politicians to get elected

[Libertas Vel Mors]

This one is pretty simple, don't nominate Biden if you do your pretty much giving Trump another four years? Why?

1). He geniunly looks sick, if I had to bet dementia

2). Trump would stomp him on the debate stage

3). He won't win, remember Clinton was suppose to win in 2016 according to the polls.

4). He comes off like he doesn't want to be POTUS at all, not to mention his former boss who he sometimes can't remember even told advised him not to run.

Nominate Buttigieg. He's the dems best shot. He'll run an actual campaign thats for the current era effectively. And he's wicked smart.

DON'T. NOMINATE. BIDEN.

Proud Independent

1.) obviously you’ve never seen an actual person with dementia if you think Biden’s gaffes constitutes Dementia.

2.) How so? Biden is better arguing against republicans than arguing against Democrats from the center

3.) this point is a logical fallacy

4.) How does he come off as not wanting to be POTUS? He’s running for a third time, clearly he wants it. And Obama told him not to run because his son had just died and he wanted a woman to succeed him

1. Obviously neither have you if you don't see how someone could think that.

2. And exactly which liberals or left-of-liberals are gonna turn out for someone who keeps hitting the dead-center each time?

3. True, but such facts are silly things anyway.

4. If he actually wanted to run, there'd be a lot more effort out of him, but he's mostly been coasting. He clearly knew 2016 was his shot, and he's regretted letting in Trump since. If there were any other reason, he'd have it...but instead, he's as empty of referendum person as John Kerry, Mittens, Bob Dole, or Walter Mondale.

God, I wish, but please remember that the center of the Democratic party /= center of America as a whole. Even a public option is too radical for my tastes, or the Democratic party of less then a decade ago.

[Kleine Scheiße]

God, I wish, but please remember that the center of the Democratic party /= center of America as a whole. Even a public option is too radical for my tastes, or the Democratic party of less then a decade ago.

 jfk wouldve been a fascist today and thats why im not gonna let u buy ur own insurance from the gubbermint >:^(

[Lord Halifax]

1.) He doesn't look sick and he'll release medical records as promised. I think he wouldn't have jumped in if doctors advised him against.

2.) Lmao, Trump's debate skills are vastly overrated. This guy is just talking nonsense and has no idea/no knowledge about major issues. His debate performance for the general election in 2016 were utterly terrible, and he seems to be getting more senile by the day. He's certainly no strong debater against anyone who has a little knowledge and the ability to speak to audiences.

3.) Final polls in 2016 battlegrounds weren't that off. Also, hardly an argument why Biden shouldn't be the nominee. Ever since 2017, he's consistently beaten Trump in polls by fair margins, both nationwide and in most battlegrounds.

4.) Of course he wants to be president, he wanted it for the better part of his political career. Whether you like his policies or not, but he has presented a substantial program if elected. He wants to reverse the damage Trump has done and build on Barack Obama's legacy and get to the next level.

Could you please stop using the inane "lmao" about things that clearly aren't hilarious (and often not even funny)?