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« Reply #425 on: February 06, 2020, 04:53:00 PM »



how is this even legal

Frankly it won't matter at all, I doubt she will be able to raise $ 5M from smaller republican donors, most of her money will come from her pocket
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« Reply #426 on: February 06, 2020, 05:06:01 PM »

The people at the NRSC also thought that Luther Strange, Martha McSally, and Patrick Morrisey were formidable candidates and that MT-SEN/OH-SEN/WV-SEN shouldn’t be prioritized because you had "strong Democratic incumbents" running for reelection there and the Republican challengers in those states were supposedly infinitely weaker than strong incumbent Heller/Rosen infinitely weaker than Tester, Manchin, and Brown.

It’s safe to say that the people at the NRSC are some of the most inept morons in the entire country. If it wasn’t for those clowns, the Senate wouldn’t even be in play in 2020 because AL/WV would have never been lost. They don’t even deserve credit for Scott picking up FL-SEN.
Yeah, you're unfortunately right on all of this. These people have proven to be totally inept and inefective at winning competitive races, and the worse is that the MT-SEN/WV-SEN/OH-SEN fiasco was not just a 2018 aberration, I mean it's the entire 2010 decade which was a pathetic failure, just look at all the races they fu**cked up in 2010 and 2012 and even 2014 (Gillespie would have won with more investments in VA, even if he likely would have been a single-term senator).

The sad thing is that if these very well paid people were doing their job correctly republicans would have a fairly secuure 57 seats senate majority.
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« Reply #427 on: February 06, 2020, 05:11:13 PM »

The people at the NRSC also thought that Luther Strange, Martha McSally, and Patrick Morrisey were formidable candidates and that MT-SEN/OH-SEN/WV-SEN shouldn’t be prioritized because you had "strong Democratic incumbents" running for reelection there and the Republican challengers in those states were supposedly infinitely weaker than strong incumbent Heller/Rosen infinitely weaker than Tester, Manchin, and Brown.

It’s safe to say that the people at the NRSC are some of the most inept morons in the entire country. If it wasn’t for those clowns, the Senate wouldn’t even be in play in 2020 because AL/WV would have never been lost. They don’t even deserve credit for Scott picking up FL-SEN.

WV, MT, and OH will probably all flip in 2024 regardless of who’s president.
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« Reply #428 on: February 06, 2020, 05:16:23 PM »

Yeah, you're unfortunately right on all of this. These people have proven to be totally inept and inefective at winning competitive races, and the worse is that the MT-SEN/WV-SEN/OH-SEN fiasco was not just a 2018 aberration, I mean it's the entire 2010 decade which was a pathetic failure, just look at all the races they fu**cked up in 2010 and 2012 and even 2014 (Gillespie would have won with more investments in VA, even if he likely would have been a single-term senator).

The sad thing is that if these very well paid people were doing their job correctly republicans would have a fairly secuure 57 seats senate majority.

Eh, I think they did pretty well in 2014 with the obvious exception of MI, which was a total disaster and should have been way more competitive. You could argue that Warner would have won by more if Republicans had decided to contest VA since Democrats would have countered with their own resources rather than being asleep at the wheel. Also, the NRSC probably would have prioritized VA over MI this year if Gillespie had won in 2014, so it would have been a pyrrhic victory.

2014 and 2016 were really the only good years for them in the Senate (in the 2010s). They underperformed expectations in 2010 and did wayyyy worse than they should have in 2018 and especially 2012.

WV, MT, and OH will probably all flip in 2024 regardless of who’s president.

Maybe WV does if Manchin retires, but MT and OH won’t be slam dunks.
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« Reply #429 on: February 06, 2020, 05:31:35 PM »

Yeah, you're unfortunately right on all of this. These people have proven to be totally inept and inefective at winning competitive races, and the worse is that the MT-SEN/WV-SEN/OH-SEN fiasco was not just a 2018 aberration, I mean it's the entire 2010 decade which was a pathetic failure, just look at all the races they fu**cked up in 2010 and 2012 and even 2014 (Gillespie would have won with more investments in VA, even if he likely would have been a single-term senator).

The sad thing is that if these very well paid people were doing their job correctly republicans would have a fairly secuure 57 seats senate majority.

Eh, I think they did pretty well in 2014 with the obvious exception of MI, which was a total disaster and should have been way more competitive. You could argue that Warner would have won by more if Republicans had decided to contest VA since Democrats would have countered with their own resources rather than being asleep at the wheel. Also, the NRSC probably would have prioritized VA over MI this year if Gillespie had won in 2014, so it would have been a pyrrhic victory.

2014 and 2016 were really the only good years for them in the Senate (in the 2010s). They underperformed expectations in 2010 and did wayyyy worse than they should have in 2018 and especially 2012.

WV, MT, and OH will probably all flip in 2024 regardless of who’s president.

Maybe WV does if Manchin retires, but MT and OH won’t be slam dunks.

Doesn’t matter. If the GOP gets good recruits in all three states, they should start out favored. Manchin and Tester won by only 3 in the best year possible for Dems, and Brown just by 6 against an opponent who barely campaigned.
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« Reply #430 on: February 06, 2020, 05:35:17 PM »
« Edited: February 06, 2020, 05:40:35 PM by Frenchrepublican »

Yeah, you're unfortunately right on all of this. These people have proven to be totally inept and inefective at winning competitive races, and the worse is that the MT-SEN/WV-SEN/OH-SEN fiasco was not just a 2018 aberration, I mean it's the entire 2010 decade which was a pathetic failure, just look at all the races they fu**cked up in 2010 and 2012 and even 2014 (Gillespie would have won with more investments in VA, even if he likely would have been a single-term senator).

The sad thing is that if these very well paid people were doing their job correctly republicans would have a fairly secuure 57 seats senate majority.

Eh, I think they did pretty well in 2014 with the obvious exception of MI, which was a total disaster and should have been way more competitive. You could argue that Warner would have won by more if Republicans had decided to contest VA since Democrats would have countered with their own resources rather than being asleep at the wheel. Also, the NRSC probably would have prioritized VA over MI this year if Gillespie had won in 2014, so it would have been a pyrrhic victory.

2014 and 2016 were really the only good years for them in the Senate (in the 2010s). They underperformed expectations in 2010 and did wayyyy worse than they should have in 2018 and especially 2012.

WV, MT, and OH will probably all flip in 2024 regardless of who’s president.

Maybe WV does if Manchin retires, but MT and OH won’t be slam dunks.

Not sure about that, by 2014 VA still a fairly red leaning state, if I’m remember well republicans won the House vote by nearly double digits in 2014. Warner would have been defeated had Gillespie been given the ressources to compete, his problem is that he underperformed biggly in the rural southwestern parts of VA, with more money he could have hit harder Warner in this area and at the same time he could have increased his name recognition, it probably would have been enough to win.
It would have been a one term rental, no doubts, but it would have made a major difference when republicans tried to repeal the ACA as Gillespie would have provided one more vote for the repeal.
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« Reply #431 on: February 06, 2020, 05:37:46 PM »

The people at the NRSC also thought that Luther Strange, Martha McSally, and Patrick Morrisey were formidable candidates and that MT-SEN/OH-SEN/WV-SEN shouldn’t be prioritized because you had "strong Democratic incumbents" running for reelection there and the Republican challengers in those states were supposedly infinitely weaker than strong incumbent Heller/Rosen infinitely weaker than Tester, Manchin, and Brown.

It’s safe to say that the people at the NRSC are some of the most inept morons in the entire country. If it wasn’t for those clowns, the Senate wouldn’t even be in play in 2020 because AL/WV would have never been lost. They don’t even deserve credit for Scott picking up FL-SEN.

WV, MT, and OH will probably all flip in 2024 regardless of who’s president.

Yeah, provided republicans take these races seriously this time. You can’t be sure about that, now the good thing is that in 2024 republicans will have relatively few offensive targets as the low hanging fruits have already been taken two years ago, thus it should allow republicans to put more ressources in the three states in question
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« Reply #432 on: February 06, 2020, 05:59:52 PM »

Yeah, you're unfortunately right on all of this. These people have proven to be totally inept and inefective at winning competitive races, and the worse is that the MT-SEN/WV-SEN/OH-SEN fiasco was not just a 2018 aberration, I mean it's the entire 2010 decade which was a pathetic failure, just look at all the races they fu**cked up in 2010 and 2012 and even 2014 (Gillespie would have won with more investments in VA, even if he likely would have been a single-term senator).

The sad thing is that if these very well paid people were doing their job correctly republicans would have a fairly secuure 57 seats senate majority.

Eh, I think they did pretty well in 2014 with the obvious exception of MI, which was a total disaster and should have been way more competitive. You could argue that Warner would have won by more if Republicans had decided to contest VA since Democrats would have countered with their own resources rather than being asleep at the wheel. Also, the NRSC probably would have prioritized VA over MI this year if Gillespie had won in 2014, so it would have been a pyrrhic victory.

2014 and 2016 were really the only good years for them in the Senate (in the 2010s). They underperformed expectations in 2010 and did wayyyy worse than they should have in 2018 and especially 2012.

WV, MT, and OH will probably all flip in 2024 regardless of who’s president.

Maybe WV does if Manchin retires, but MT and OH won’t be slam dunks.

Doesn’t matter. If the GOP gets good recruits in all three states, they should start out favored. Manchin and Tester won by only 3 in the best year possible for Dems, and Brown just by 6 against an opponent who barely campaigned.

Yeah in theory republicans should flip these seats, but you know reality =/= theory 
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« Reply #433 on: February 06, 2020, 06:03:06 PM »

The people at the NRSC also thought that Luther Strange, Martha McSally, and Patrick Morrisey were formidable candidates and that MT-SEN/OH-SEN/WV-SEN shouldn’t be prioritized because you had "strong Democratic incumbents" running for reelection there and the Republican challengers in those states were supposedly infinitely weaker than strong incumbent Heller/Rosen infinitely weaker than Tester, Manchin, and Brown.

It’s safe to say that the people at the NRSC are some of the most inept morons in the entire country. If it wasn’t for those clowns, the Senate wouldn’t even be in play in 2020 because AL/WV would have never been lost. They don’t even deserve credit for Scott picking up FL-SEN.

WV, MT, and OH will probably all flip in 2024 regardless of who’s president.

Yeah, provided republicans take these races seriously this time. You can’t be sure about that, now the good thing is that in 2024 republicans will have relatively few offensive targets as the low hanging fruits have already been taken two years ago, thus it should allow republicans to put more ressources in the three states in question

Additionally, they’ll also only have two seats they have to worry about defending: Texas and Florida. Both have good chances of being open seats because the incumbents are likely to run for President that year.
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« Reply #434 on: February 06, 2020, 06:11:30 PM »

The people at the NRSC also thought that Luther Strange, Martha McSally, and Patrick Morrisey were formidable candidates and that MT-SEN/OH-SEN/WV-SEN shouldn’t be prioritized because you had "strong Democratic incumbents" running for reelection there and the Republican challengers in those states were supposedly infinitely weaker than strong incumbent Heller/Rosen infinitely weaker than Tester, Manchin, and Brown.

It’s safe to say that the people at the NRSC are some of the most inept morons in the entire country. If it wasn’t for those clowns, the Senate wouldn’t even be in play in 2020 because AL/WV would have never been lost. They don’t even deserve credit for Scott picking up FL-SEN.

WV, MT, and OH will probably all flip in 2024 regardless of who’s president.

Yeah, provided republicans take these races seriously this time. You can’t be sure about that, now the good thing is that in 2024 republicans will have relatively few offensive targets as the low hanging fruits have already been taken two years ago, thus it should allow republicans to put more ressources in the three states in question

Additionally, they’ll also only have two seats they have to worry about defending: Texas and Florida. Both have good chances of being open seats because the incumbents are likely to run for President that year.

And frankly Cruz leaving his seat open would probably make it easier for us to keep it
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« Reply #435 on: February 06, 2020, 06:45:47 PM »

Do you guys seriously still think Loeffler is stronger than Collins?
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« Reply #436 on: February 06, 2020, 06:50:45 PM »

The people at the NRSC also thought that Luther Strange, Martha McSally, and Patrick Morrisey were formidable candidates and that MT-SEN/OH-SEN/WV-SEN shouldn’t be prioritized because you had "strong Democratic incumbents" running for reelection there and the Republican challengers in those states were supposedly infinitely weaker than strong incumbent Heller/Rosen infinitely weaker than Tester, Manchin, and Brown.

It’s safe to say that the people at the NRSC are some of the most inept morons in the entire country. If it wasn’t for those clowns, the Senate wouldn’t even be in play in 2020 because AL/WV would have never been lost. They don’t even deserve credit for Scott picking up FL-SEN.

WV, MT, and OH will probably all flip in 2024 regardless of who’s president.

Yeah, provided republicans take these races seriously this time. You can’t be sure about that, now the good thing is that in 2024 republicans will have relatively few offensive targets as the low hanging fruits have already been taken two years ago, thus it should allow republicans to put more ressources in the three states in question

Additionally, they’ll also only have two seats they have to worry about defending: Texas and Florida. Both have good chances of being open seats because the incumbents are likely to run for President that year.

And frankly Cruz leaving his seat open would probably make it easier for us to keep it

If Cruz retires, the GOP will quickly rally behind Crenshaw. He’d do better than Cruz IMO.
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« Reply #437 on: February 18, 2020, 03:42:01 PM »

Collins taking shots at one of Loeffler's ads:

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« Reply #438 on: February 18, 2020, 08:27:13 PM »

Collins taking shots at one of Loeffler's ads:



It's been pointed out in local media that Loeffler doesn't have (and has never had) a Georgia hunting license.
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« Reply #439 on: February 18, 2020, 08:41:03 PM »

This chick is supposed to do a lot better than Trump in “suburbs” because...?
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« Reply #440 on: February 18, 2020, 08:46:06 PM »

This is lol-tier levels of pandering.
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« Reply #441 on: February 18, 2020, 08:52:41 PM »

Collins taking shots at one of Loeffler's ads:



muhhh gunnss
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« Reply #442 on: February 18, 2020, 10:00:30 PM »

This chick is supposed to do a lot better than Trump in “suburbs” because...?

her jeans cost $990 from Nordstrom
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« Reply #443 on: February 18, 2020, 10:08:31 PM »

Collins taking shots at one of Loeffler's ads:



muhhh gunnss

Is it just me or does that look photoshopped? Also, Doug Collins is going to destroy this chick in the GOP primary if she keeps up with this kind of LOL tier ads.
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« Reply #444 on: February 19, 2020, 09:40:47 AM »

I saw this on tv the other day at work and everyone in the break room (granted it's somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 black employees so it's a D skewing bunch) started busting out laughing.
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« Reply #445 on: February 20, 2020, 12:17:51 AM »

Doug Collins will beat Kelly Loeffler in the primary. I've said this before. And if he is the nominee, Georgia will probably be close to Tossup status.
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« Reply #446 on: February 20, 2020, 02:07:48 AM »

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« Reply #447 on: February 20, 2020, 10:17:21 AM »

I know the primary isn't for another 8.5 months but goddamn I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't manage to crack ten percent.  I have no idea what Kemp was thinking appointing her. Money can't buy charm or relating to a base whose quite demographically dissimilar to you.  I highly doubt the rednecks are chomping at the bit to vote for a rich white finance lady from Buckhead who lives in the most expensive house in the entire metro area with an MBA from a private catholic school with no political experience.
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« Reply #448 on: February 20, 2020, 10:43:07 AM »

I know the primary isn't for another 8.5 months but goddamn I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't manage to crack ten percent.  I have no idea what Kemp was thinking appointing her. Money can't buy charm or relating to a base whose quite demographically dissimilar to you.  I highly doubt the rednecks are chomping at the bit to vote for a rich white finance lady from Buckhead who lives in the most expensive house in the entire metro area with an MBA from a private catholic school with no political experience.

Maybe Kemp is just an idiot who's in over his head?
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« Reply #449 on: February 20, 2020, 10:59:02 AM »

I know the primary isn't for another 8.5 months but goddamn I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't manage to crack ten percent.  I have no idea what Kemp was thinking appointing her. Money can't buy charm or relating to a base whose quite demographically dissimilar to you.  I highly doubt the rednecks are chomping at the bit to vote for a rich white finance lady from Buckhead who lives in the most expensive house in the entire metro area with an MBA from a private catholic school with no political experience.

Maybe Kemp is just an idiot who's in over his head?

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