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« on: July 18, 2019, 02:09:05 pm »

so for this case too close to call and too early to call or any call where the Networks or Cable News Stations are unable to make a projection at poll closing times.

Also now many times the networks will declare states too early to call when some parts of a state has closed but not the others but in this excercise, those calls do not count. I will only count them if they were declared as such when polls actually closed in the entire state


Alabama - 2008
Alaska - 2016
Arizona- 2016
Arkansas - 2004
California - 1988
Colorado - 2016
Connecticut - 1988
Delaware - 1988
Florida - 2016
Georgia - 2016
Hawaii - 2004
Idaho-
Illinois - 1988
Indiana - 2008
Iowa - 2016
Kansas
Kentucky - 1996
Louisiana - 2008
Maine - 2016
Maryland - 1988
Massachusetts - 1988
Michigan - 2016
Minnesota - 2016
Mississippi - 2008
Missouri -2016
Montana - 2008
Nebraska - 2008
Nevada - 2016
New Hampshire - 2016
New Jersey - 2012
New Mexico - 2016
New York - 1988
North Carolina - 2016
North Dakota
Ohio - 2016
Oklahoma - 1976
Oregon - 2004
Pennsylvania - 2016
Rhode Island - 1988
South Carolina - 2016
South Dakota - 2008
Tennessee - 2000
Texas - 1992
Utah - 2016
Vermont - 1988
Virginia - 2016
Washington - 2000
West Virginia - 2004
Wisconsin - 2016
Wyoming - 1992

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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2019, 03:42:43 pm »

How in the f-ck was Utah too close to call for reporters in 2016? I mean, sure McMullin and what not, but Trump still won it by nearly 20 points. I mean the others I can understand sort of, but Utah is wtf to the maximum
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2019, 04:05:39 pm »

How in the f-ck was Utah too close to call for reporters in 2016? I mean, sure McMullin and what not, but Trump still won it by nearly 20 points. I mean the others I can understand sort of, but Utah is wtf to the maximum

I understand Utah because they base a lot of their calls on past election information and GOP numbers were 20-30% lower across the state than in past races. I can't fathom Alabama 2008 though.
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2019, 04:41:11 pm »

How was SC not called at polling get closing time in 2016 . I get MO but not SC
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2019, 02:03:34 am »

Very interesting.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2019, 07:41:54 am »

It also shows you how skittish the networks have become since 1980 (and definitely since 2000).   To call Missouri TCTC in 2016 was ridiculous.

I remember in 1980 how NBC was calling state after state for Reagan once the polls closed, for which they were criticized.  And they were right in every instance (even in the Deep South states like Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina where Reagan barely won).  The only race of significance I think the networks called wrong that year was Mack Mattingly's upset of Herman Talmadge for the GA Senate seat.
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2019, 05:05:58 pm »

It also shows you how skittish the networks have become since 1980 (and definitely since 2000).   To call Missouri TCTC in 2016 was ridiculous.

I remember in 1980 how NBC was calling state after state for Reagan once the polls closed, for which they were criticized.  And they were right in every instance (even in the Deep South states like Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina where Reagan barely won).  The only race of significance I think the networks called wrong that year was Mack Mattingly's upset of Herman Talmadge for the GA Senate seat.

The immediate projection of Clinton winning GA & NH in 1992 was so pathetic I wish he would have lost them just to embarrass whoever was making those ridiculous calls.
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2019, 07:00:37 pm »

I think 1988 was the only time Vermont was ever a swing state.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2019, 01:01:57 am »

I think 1988 was the only time Vermont was ever a swing state.

And perhaps 1980
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2019, 06:41:45 pm »

I usually don't consider the far-right serious when it says that CNN is Clinton News Network.

However, it is true that in the election night, CNN calls some states to the democratic candidate immediate after the polls close and the democratic margin is very small and CNN considers some states "too close to call" and then, the republican margin is bigger.
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