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« on: July 18, 2019, 08:10:14 PM »
« edited: July 18, 2019, 09:22:01 PM by BigVic »

Who’d win? Discuss with maps.
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2019, 08:19:12 PM »



Total blood bath. In all normally Lean D states, the Dem vote is split with moderates going Clinton and progressives going Bernie. Meanwhile Kasich is great at appealing to independents. So it’s a total runaway, maybe not 1980 or 1984 .. but similar to 1988
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2019, 10:57:08 PM »
« Edited: July 26, 2019, 07:23:06 AM by BigVic »

Kasich wins in a landslide thanks to the vote split between Hillary and Sanders



Fmr. Gov John Kasich (R-OH)/Fmr. Gov Nikki Haley (R-SC) 391 (43.2%)
Pres. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/VP Tim Kaine (R-VA) (32.5%) 117 (35.9%)
Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT)/Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (R-OH) 30 (20.3%)
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2019, 04:21:18 AM »

Too lazy to adjust the popular vote margins in each state lol but obviously a comfortable Kasich win:



Fmr. Governor John Kasich (R-OH)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL): 343 EV; 40.6%
President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Vice President Tim Kaine (D-VA): 173 EV; 33.7%
Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT)/Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard (ID-HI): 22 EV; 24.4%
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2019, 08:04:31 AM »
« Edited: July 26, 2019, 12:31:38 AM by BigVic »

Too lazy to adjust the popular vote margins in each state lol but obviously a comfortable Kasich win:



Fmr. Governor John Kasich (R-OH)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL): 343 EV; 40.6%
President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Vice President Tim Kaine (D-VA): 173 EV; 33.7%
Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT)/Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard (ID-HI): 22 EV; 24.4%

Sanders gets into the debates. What’s with his high popular vote numbers?!?
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2019, 02:41:00 AM »

Too lazy to adjust the popular vote margins in each state lol but obviously a comfortable Kasich win:



Fmr. Governor John Kasich (R-OH)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL): 343 EV; 40.6%
President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Vice President Tim Kaine (D-VA): 173 EV; 33.7%
Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT)/Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard (ID-HI): 22 EV; 24.4%

Sanders gets into the debates. What’s with his high popular vote numbers?!?

What can I say, he was just really popular on the general election campaign trail Tongue
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2019, 02:49:15 AM »

Too lazy to adjust the popular vote margins in each state lol but obviously a comfortable Kasich win:



Fmr. Governor John Kasich (R-OH)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL): 343 EV; 40.6%
President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Vice President Tim Kaine (D-VA): 173 EV; 33.7%
Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT)/Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard (ID-HI): 22 EV; 24.4%

Why would Clinton win MN and ME? I'd have to imagine Kasich also takes those states as well as a few others.
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2019, 02:50:38 AM »

In a best case for Kasich in this scenario, He could break 400.



Kasich 403
Clinton 132
Sanders 3
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2019, 02:52:01 AM »

Who’d win? Discuss with maps.
Depends how what happened to Trump and how Kasich got the GOP nomination.
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2019, 09:15:14 PM »

Too lazy to adjust the popular vote margins in each state lol but obviously a comfortable Kasich win:



Fmr. Governor John Kasich (R-OH)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL): 343 EV; 40.6%
President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Vice President Tim Kaine (D-VA): 173 EV; 33.7%
Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT)/Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard (ID-HI): 22 EV; 24.4%

Why would Clinton win MN and ME? I'd have to imagine Kasich also takes those states as well as a few others.

Kasich doesn't really appeal all that much to the working-class voters that could've given both MN & ME to Trump, hence their (mostly) staying in Democratic hands.
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2019, 07:55:26 AM »

Kasich wins in a huge landslide.

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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2019, 12:53:30 PM »

I doubt Bernard would run independent, but if he did, Kasich would handily win (he would even win a head-to-head matchup):



✓ Former Governor John R. Kasich (R-OH)/Former Governor Nikki Haley (R-SC): 342 EV. (47.89%)
President Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY)/Vice President Timothy M. Kaine (D-VA): 193 EV. (41.21%)
Senator Bernard Sanders (I-VT)/Representative Tulsi Gabbard (I-HI): 3 EV. (9.65%)
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