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Don Vito Corleone
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« on: November 06, 2019, 01:04:27 PM »

Latinos are not going to kill american culture or something. Be grateful for what you have America.
And the immigrants Europe gets will?
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Don Vito Corleone
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2019, 10:41:56 PM »

Latinos are not going to kill american culture or something. Be grateful for what you have America.
And the immigrants Europe gets will?
"Kill" is a too strong word, but when in central European countries:
(1) 73% Muslims say Sharia law is more important than the secular laws of the state
(2) 47% of German Muslims agreed with the statement that following the rules of one's religion is more important than democracy
(3) 69% of Muslims in Austria say they reject homosexuals as friends, 63% say Jews cannot be trusted, and 66% believe the West seeks to destroy Islam
(4) only 18% of Muslims in the UK agree that Homosexuality should be legal there,

then yes, that is completely incompatible and a threat to our Culture and Values in Europe. Not that it is necessarily the fault of the individuals in question. But it is the consequence of a failed integration policy and an immigration policy that takes in a unsustainable number of people, mostly without formal education or qualifications, with values that are irreconcilable with ours.

For that is something that the U.S. does better, and its the reason why American Muslims tend to be from a far more secular and educated background.
While linking to the Gatestone Institute is very suspect, and I am pretty sure that these numbers are better among young Muslims than older Muslims, I do take your overall point: these numbers are quite worrying. However, it's a huge stretch to say Muslims are a threat to European culture and values due to their small numbers, and I fail to see the connection to U.S. immigration policy, because Immigration Hawks are typically also not huge fans of U.S. immigration policy either. Plus, I will point out that these immigrants are fully legal.

Slightly unrelated, but what's your opinion of the Canadian immigration system?
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Don Vito Corleone
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2019, 03:00:46 PM »

and generally the whole idea of immigration and identity is very different in Canada than in Europe. Canadian Identity is strongly values-based, while most European Identites are founded on strong linguistic, cultural and to a lesser degree even ethnic identity.
Indeed, in my view this is the big issue with immigration in Europe, and I don’t know what can/should be done about it.
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