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Question: Who would you vote for?
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John Adams (F)		  
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Thomas Jefferson (R)		  
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A18
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« on: December 04, 2005, 11:16:24 AM »
« edited: December 04, 2005, 11:40:20 AM by A18 »
EDIT: No hindsight.

This was the nation's first real presidential campaign. Republicans were finally free to attack Federalism without having to assail the revered George Washington.

Adams distrusted the 'masses,' and favored life terms for senators in order to check the popularly elected House of Representatives. He pledged to reinforce Washington's strong central government.

Jefferson, distrustful of consolidated power, supported a large degree of state autonomy.

In foreign affairs, Adams abhorred the French Revolution as a mobocracy. Jefferson, while taking issue with its excesses, applauded the effort to overthrow the French monarchy.

President Washington made it known that he preferred Adams as his successor. The federal bureaucracy, every important member of which owed his job to Washington, also backed Adams.
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2005, 11:43:29 AM »
I would have objected to Adams' nationalism. Jefferson took a far more limited view of the role of the federal government; I would accordingly have supported him.

Foreign policy would not have been an important issue for me. I agree with Adams' assessment of the French Revolution, but this would have been insufficient to cause me to switch my vote.
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2005, 12:03:53 PM »
I would also vote for Jefferson, and without Washington's support, Adams might well have lost.

Did you vote?
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2005, 12:04:16 PM »
most likely Jefferson, but kind of undecided. I don't really know much about this election.
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2005, 12:37:14 PM »
Quote from: 9iron on December 04, 2005, 12:04:16 PM
most likely Jefferson, but kind of undecided. I don't really know much about this election.

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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2005, 12:58:14 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2005, 03:49:55 PM »
John Adams, but nothing against Jefferson
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2005, 05:08:34 PM »
Adams out of respect for the man. I view him more favorably than Jefferson, seeing how Jefferson was nearly an atheist and a sleezeball.
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2005, 05:11:22 PM »
Quote from: Senator PBrunsel on December 04, 2005, 05:08:34 PM
Adams out of respect for the man. I view him more favorably than Jefferson, seeing how Jefferson was nearly an atheist and a sleezeball.

Precisely why I voted for Jefferson, though I hate 'states rights'.
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2005, 05:12:12 PM »
Quote from: Senator PBrunsel on December 04, 2005, 05:08:34 PM
Adams out of respect for the man. I view him more favorably than Jefferson, seeing how Jefferson was nearly an atheist and a sleezeball.

I agree.

I also realize that we are not using hindsight in this, but I would like to add that Adams is tied for my favorite President.  He is the first man in history to willingly give up his power to another political entity.
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2005, 05:16:18 PM »
Quote from: opebo on December 04, 2005, 05:11:22 PM
Quote from: Senator PBrunsel on December 04, 2005, 05:08:34 PM
Adams out of respect for the man. I view him more favorably than Jefferson, seeing how Jefferson was nearly an atheist and a sleezeball.

Precisely why I voted for Jefferson, though I hate 'states rights'.

You couldn't have. It's been at 8 for an hour.
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2005, 06:10:32 PM »
Quote from: A18 on December 04, 2005, 05:16:18 PM
Quote from: opebo on December 04, 2005, 05:11:22 PM
Quote from: Senator PBrunsel on December 04, 2005, 05:08:34 PM
Adams out of respect for the man. I view him more favorably than Jefferson, seeing how Jefferson was nearly an atheist and a sleezeball.

Precisely why I voted for Jefferson, though I hate 'states rights'.

You couldn't have. It's been at 8 for an hour.

Yeah, I voted a long time ago, just didn't post about it.
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2005, 03:07:19 AM »
Jefferson, obviously.
Adams was a horrible person.
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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2005, 03:29:10 AM »
Thomas Jefferson, easily.

And PBrunsel, Jefferson had great respect for small towns and small farmers throughout his life, his is the kind of America you seem to like, why do you let his personal religious beliefs spoil your view of him?

And what do you mean by sleezeball?
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« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2005, 01:59:01 PM »
Jefferson

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« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2005, 08:20:59 PM »
John Adams

Though Jefferson talked like a firm Republican believer, he was definitly more aristocratic than Adams.  He was indeed a "sleezeball."  A demagouge of the worst sorts.

While the federalists in general were too connected to the rich elite and supported some policies that bolstered them, Adams was much more moderate.  Not great, but better than Jefferson.  Plus he had a sensible foreign policy.  Jefferson destroyed our millitary capacity.
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« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2005, 08:22:36 PM »
Quote from: Cosmo Kramer on December 06, 2005, 08:20:59 PM
Jefferson destroyed our millitary capacity.

I think you missed the "No hindsight" line Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2005, 08:24:23 PM »
Jefferson, especially with hindsight.
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2005, 11:46:10 PM »
Adams, as I most likely would have been, like George Washington and John Marshall but unlike many Virginians, a Federalist. 
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