Universal health care

[Hatman 🍁]

Only if it's two-tier.

You disappoint me, Lt. Governor

I voted yes, of course. Health care is a right, and no one deserves better health care than anyone else.

[Hatman 🍁]

Hell no.

Health care is a right

No, it isn't.

Maybe not in self centred-Libertarian land, but here in the land where people care about one another, it is.  Health care is my right, and I'll be damned if a greedy Libertarian will say otherwise.

[Hatman 🍁]

Hell no.

Health care is a right

No, it isn't.

Maybe not in self centred-Libertarian land, but here in the land where people care about one another, it is.  Health care is my right, and I'll be damned if a greedy Libertarian will say otherwise.

I'll be sure to bill all my health bills to Canada.  If it s a right, you will surely pay for mine with a smile.

Get your own free health care. You don't pay into our system, so you don't get to reap the benefits.

[Hatman 🍁]

Hell no.

Health care is a right

No, it isn't.

Maybe not in self centred-Libertarian land, but here in the land where people care about one another, it is.  Health care is my right, and I'll be damned if a greedy Libertarian will say otherwise.

I'll be sure to bill all my health bills to Canada.  If it s a right, you will surely pay for mine with a smile.

Get your own free health care. You don't pay into our system, so you don't get to reap the benefits.

People in Canada who don't make any money also don't pay into the system, but you seem to have no problem with paying for them.

Ahh, going down that route are we? Let me choose a different path then, health care is a right in Canada. Clearly, it is not a right in the U.S. It's a right, it's my right as a Canadian citizen. And it should be a right for Americans. However, since it isn't, and since the U.S. is a different jurisdiction altogether, don't expect me to pay your health care costs.

[Hatman 🍁]

Your favorable view of coercion is sickening.

Don't tread on me

[Hatman 🍁]

The Canadian trash can refrain from forcing his socialism (or maybe social democracy ) on us greedy capitalist Americans. Other country's can run themselves into the ground paying for a welfare state, America has shown itself to oppose it.

I'm not forcing anything on you. I'll also have you know that Canada's economy is doing quite well, and I ask you to present evidence of Canada running itself into the ground paying for a "welfare state"

Ahh, going down that route are we? Let me choose a different path then, health care is a right in Canada. Clearly, it is not a right in the U.S. It's a right, it's my right as a Canadian citizen. And it should be a right for Americans. However, since it isn't, and since the U.S. is a different jurisdiction altogether, don't expect me to pay your health care costs.

You asserted that Tredrick shouldn't get healthcare from your system because he doesn't pay into it - if a Canadian doesn't pay into the system, why should he receive healthcare from it?

Because it is a right in Canada

[Hatman 🍁]

Ahh, going down that route are we? Let me choose a different path then, health care is a right in Canada. Clearly, it is not a right in the U.S. It's a right, it's my right as a Canadian citizen. And it should be a right for Americans. However, since it isn't, and since the U.S. is a different jurisdiction altogether, don't expect me to pay your health care costs.

You asserted that Tredrick shouldn't get healthcare from your system because he doesn't pay into it - if a Canadian doesn't pay into the system, why should he receive healthcare from it?

Because it is a right in Canada

So if I go to Canada, can I get free health care?  Could be worth a car ride.

Once again, I am forced to elaborate. It is a right for Canadian citizens

One must realize that when you work hard for your money, you have to use your common sense and realize that by paying taxes, you in effect make your life better. It means a higher standard of living for not just you, but for everyone. Of course, one must reach a balance, because high taxes put a damper on the economy. In Canada, I feel we have reached this balance.

[Hatman 🍁]

One must realize that when you work hard for your money, you have to use your common sense and realize that by paying taxes, you in effect make your life better. It means a higher standard of living for not just you, but for everyone. Of course, one must reach a balance, because high taxes put a damper on the economy. In Canada, I feel we have reached this balance.

Say I'm a healthy person who rarely has a need for healthcare - by being forced to pay the extra taxes, my life is worse because I'm paying for nothing that benefits me.

It benefits you, because you will need it when you get older. Plus, people who can't afford things, especially important things like health care are more likely to commit crimes. I for one like my low crime rate.

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You asserted that Tredrick shouldn't get healthcare from your system because he doesn't pay into it - if a Canadian doesn't pay into the system, why should he receive healthcare from it?

Because it is a right in Canada
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You still haven't answered the question - you asserted that one person shouldn't get healthcare from Canada because he didn't pay into the system(not because he didn't live in Canada), so why does someone else who doesn't pay into the system deserve it simply because they happen to live in Canada?
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I have already changed my reasoning, Dibble. Try and follow a long. I know I may not be coherent all the time, but please help me out