Opinion of this Bible "translation"

[they don't love you like i love you]

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[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

It's a dishonest translation, and as a translator myself I take that seriously, but I don't really object to people referring to God with non-male pronouns when speaking for themselves.

[they don't love you like i love you]

It's a dishonest translation, and as a translator myself I take that seriously, but I don't really object to people referring to God with non-male pronouns when speaking for themselves.

What's your opinion of The Message?

[Mr. Smith]

Pro-nouns aside, not bad.

That said, I don't believe the Great Mother in Heaven has anything to do with this and something else seems missing.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

Horrible translation. In the Latin version, the Bible clearly says "deus", not "dea". Period.

[DC Al Fine]

It's a dishonest translation, and as a translator myself I take that seriously, but I don't really object to people referring to God with non-male pronouns when speaking for themselves.

What's your opinion of The Message?

Paraphrase, not a translation.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

It's a dishonest translation, and as a translator myself I take that seriously, but I don't really object to people referring to God with non-male pronouns when speaking for themselves.

What's your opinion of The Message?

Mixed, lean Horrible Paraphrase. My opinion of it has moderated quite a bit since the last time you and I discussed Bible translation a few years ago, and I could see it being used to good effect in youth groups and as private spiritual reading, but the idea of using it liturgically or for adult group study makes me dry heave.

[they don't love you like i love you]

It's a dishonest translation, and as a translator myself I take that seriously, but I don't really object to people referring to God with non-male pronouns when speaking for themselves.

What's your opinion of The Message?

Mixed, lean Horrible Paraphrase. My opinion of it has moderated quite a bit since the last time you and I discussed Bible translation a few years ago, and I could see it being used to good effect in youth groups and private devotional study, but the idea of using it liturgically makes me dry heave.

I want you to visit my church and see your reaction.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Horrible translation. In the Latin version, the Bible clearly says "deus", not "dea". Period.

As a good Protestant, I couldn't care less about the Latin translation from the original.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

It's a dishonest translation, and as a translator myself I take that seriously, but I don't really object to people referring to God with non-male pronouns when speaking for themselves.

What's your opinion of The Message?

Mixed, lean Horrible Paraphrase. My opinion of it has moderated quite a bit since the last time you and I discussed Bible translation a few years ago, and I could see it being used to good effect in youth groups and private devotional study, but the idea of using it liturgically makes me dry heave.

I want you to visit my church and see your reaction.

Honestly, I'm game if I'm ever in Minneapolis.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

Horrible translation. In the Latin version, the Bible clearly says "deus", not "dea". Period.

As a good Protestant, I couldn't care less about the Latin translation from the original.

But it was a Protestant who translated the Bible into a modern language.

[DC Al Fine]

Horrible translation. In the Latin version, the Bible clearly says "deus", not "dea". Period.

As a good Protestant, I couldn't care less about the Latin translation from the original.

But it was a Protestant who translated the Bible into a modern language.

Yes, from Greek and Hebrew, not Latin.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Horrible translation. In the Latin version, the Bible clearly says "deus", not "dea". Period.

As a good Protestant, I couldn't care less about the Latin translation from the original.

But it was a Protestant who translated the Bible into a modern language.

Yes, from Greek and Hebrew, not Latin.

Even newer Catholic translations are from the original languages rather than the Vulgate.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

Horrible translation. In the Latin version, the Bible clearly says "deus", not "dea". Period.

As a good Protestant, I couldn't care less about the Latin translation from the original.

But it was a Protestant who translated the Bible into a modern language.

Yes, from Greek and Hebrew, not Latin.

But the Greek version still says θεός, and not θεά.

[DC Al Fine]

Horrible translation. In the Latin version, the Bible clearly says "deus", not "dea". Period.

As a good Protestant, I couldn't care less about the Latin translation from the original.

But it was a Protestant who translated the Bible into a modern language.

Yes, from Greek and Hebrew, not Latin.

But the Greek version still says θεός, and not θεά.

100% agree. I was just nitpicking.

[°Leprechaun]

FT

Unless women are to have full equality, "God" should not be seen as a male and
to be fair the Goddess is not really a female. If the creator is spirit rather than flesh, he or she transcends gender.

If "men" are created in the image and likeness of the creator, and with a divine-like nature (or at least an "inner light" ), so are women.

As for the "translation", since it is in quotes, I don't take the word literally, so translations which are literal would be just that, but that is a different issue. There is a case to be made for literal (accurate) translations, because an inaccurate translation distorts the original message.
Just saying, it's all open to debate anyway.

Also, I am not sure about Hebrew, but I know that not all languages require a personal pronoun. Also masculine nouns like the Latin word "homo" can apply to a woman as well as to a man. So "theos" could arguably refer to a god that is not necessarily a "he".

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Hang on, isn't that just the NRSV but the tweeter has changed 'he' to 'she'? I would imagine someone somewhere has made an original translation where God is female which they could have used instead.

Also, HP because it excludes gender nonbinaries. There's no reason other than cissexism that it should be changed against the text to 'she' and not e.g. 'xe' or 'ze' or 'they'.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Horrible translation. In the Latin version, the Bible clearly says "deus", not "dea". Period.

As a good Protestant, I couldn't care less about the Latin translation from the original.

But it was a Protestant who translated the Bible into a modern language.

Yes, from Greek and Hebrew, not Latin.

But the Greek version still says θεός, and not θεά.

II Samuel wasn't originally written in Greek, either. The word you're looking for is אֱלֹהִים .

[Lechasseur]

Horrible translation

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Horrible translation. In the Latin version, the Bible clearly says "deus", not "dea". Period.

As a good Protestant, I couldn't care less about the Latin translation from the original.

But it was a Protestant who translated the Bible into a modern language.

Yes, from Greek and Hebrew, not Latin.

But the Greek version still says θεός, and not θεά.

II Samuel wasn't originally written in Greek, either. The word you're looking for is אֱלֹהִים .

Actually, the division of Samuel into two books can be traced to the Septuagint, so while I get what you meant and agree with it, from a certain point of view II Samuel was originally written in Greek.

[Ban my account ffs!]

It's a dishonest translation, and as a translator myself I take that seriously, but I don't really object to people referring to God with non-male pronouns when speaking for themselves.

What's your opinion of The Message?

Paraphrase, not a translation.

Basically that is Christianity in a nutshell

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

I'm sure God is really happy that anyone would get upset over a gendered pronoun /s

[Kool-Aid]

Learn Latin.  Word is a poor translation for Logos

[Donerail]

Hang on, isn't that just the NRSV but the tweeter has changed 'he' to 'she'? I would imagine someone somewhere has made an original translation where God is female which they could have used instead.

Yep, it's NRSV. Voted FT b/c I like the NRSV & don't really care about the pronoun-switching — it's intentionally provocative, sure, but honestly not a big deal.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Hang on, isn't that just the NRSV but the tweeter has changed 'he' to 'she'? I would imagine someone somewhere has made an original translation where God is female which they could have used instead.

Yep, it's NRSV. Voted FT b/c I like the NRSV & don't really care about the pronoun-switching — it's intentionally provocative, sure, but honestly not a big deal.

This woman is an Episcopal priest by the way. Is she abnormal or pretty standard?