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« on: December 18, 2005, 08:41:05 PM »

Starting from the the first AD to 20th. And yeah, it's not complete, I'm too lazy now. Maybe someone else can do a complete list:

1st - Jesus Christ
2nd
3rd
4th - Constantine I
5th - Odoacer
6th
7th - Mohammed
8th - Charlemagne
9th
10th
11th - William the Conqueror
12th - Saladin
13th - Genghis Khan
14th
15th - Ferdinand II of Spain
16th - Martin Luther
17th - Oliver Cromwell
18th - George Washington
19th - Napolean Bonaparte
20th - FDR
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2005, 01:49:57 AM »

0-99 AD: Jesus Christ
100's AD: Hadrian 
200's: ??
300's: Constantine
400's: Attila the Hun 
500's: Justinian
600's: Mohammed
700's: ?
800's: Charlemagne (He was crowned in 800 AD)
900's: ?
1000's: William the Conqueror/Pope Urban II
1100's: King Richard the Lion-Heart
1200's: Genghis Khan
1300's: Edward II
1400's: Johannes Gutenburg
1500's: Martin Luther
1600's: John Smith/John Locke
1700's: ?
1800's: Queen Victoria
1900's: Should be Gavrilo Princip (Killed Archduke Ferdinand, started WWI) but officially I'll say Albert Einstein
2000's: I can only think of 2 people, and I hate both of them (though not equally), so no one yet.
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2005, 02:03:05 AM »

700's: ?
800's: Charlemagne (He was crowned in 800 AD)

Well that's when he was crownded Emperor but he was King of the Franks prior to that and got control of a good portion of Europe.

But if you put him in the 800s, a good candidate for the 700s is Charles Martel.
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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2005, 02:06:33 AM »

700's: ?
800's: Charlemagne (He was crowned in 800 AD)

Well that's when he was crownded Emperor but he was King of the Franks prior to that and got control of a good portion of Europe.

But if you put him in the 800s, a good candidate for the 700s is Charles Martel.

Okay.

And I might have been thinking of Martel but didn't know the exact name, was he the guy that won the Battle of Tours against the Muslims? He'd be a good choice then.
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2005, 07:00:31 AM »

1st: Jesus
2nd: Ptolemy
3rd: Diocletian
4th: Constantine I
5th: Attila the Hun
6th: Justinian
7th: Muhammad
8th: Charlemagne
9th: Alfred the Great
10th: Otto the Great
11th: Urban II
12th: Omar Khayyám
13th: Genghis Khan
14th: Edward III
15th: Leonardo da Vinci
16th: Martin Luther
17th: Isaac Newton
18th: Louis XVI
19th: Napoleon Bonaparte
20th: Albert Einstein
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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2005, 03:42:50 PM »

If we can do it by half century

1500-1550 Martin Luther
1550-1600 Queen Elizabeth I
1600-1650 Cardinal Richelieu
1650-1700 John Locke
1700-1750 Voltaire
1750-1800 Frederick the Great and Adam Smith
1800-1850 Karl Marx
1850-1900 Queen Victoria
1900-1950 Adolf Hitler
1950-2000 To early to asess.
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2005, 05:38:55 PM »

Could you really say Alfred the Great or any Saxon ruler of England at all for that matter had much of any impact?  Considering, it was ended totally and completely forever after William conquered England.
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2005, 05:39:42 PM »

700's: ?
800's: Charlemagne (He was crowned in 800 AD)

Well that's when he was crownded Emperor but he was King of the Franks prior to that and got control of a good portion of Europe.

But if you put him in the 800s, a good candidate for the 700s is Charles Martel.

Okay.

And I might have been thinking of Martel but didn't know the exact name, was he the guy that won the Battle of Tours against the Muslims? He'd be a good choice then.
Yes, he was
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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2005, 05:41:08 PM »

Could you really say Alfred the Great or any Saxon ruler of England at all for that matter had much of any impact?
To be fair, Alfred did not have much of an impact. However, I could not think of anyone else to name for the ninth century (I did not wish to name Charlemagne twice).

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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2005, 10:20:57 PM »

I'm shocked I'm the only one so far to mention George Washington.
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2006, 11:49:20 PM »

1st: Jesus
2nd: Ptolemy
3rd: Diocletian
4th: Constantine I
5th: Attila the Hun
6th: Justinian
7th: Muhammad
8th: Charlemagne
9th: Alfred the Great
10th: Otto the Great
11th: Urban II
12th: Omar Khayyám
13th: Genghis Khan
14th: Edward III
15th: Leonardo da Vinci
16th: Martin Luther
17th: Isaac Newton
18th: Louis XVI
19th: Napoleon Bonaparte
20th: Albert Einstein

Louis 16 and Napoleon? what nonsense
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2006, 12:56:33 AM »

If he has Louis XVI for the 18th, he better have Louis XIV for the 17th. Pretty much set in motion the wars of 1650-1713
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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2006, 10:32:24 PM »

Starting from the the first AD to 20th. And yeah, it's not complete, I'm too lazy now. Maybe someone else can do a complete list:

1st - Jesus
2nd - Hadrian
3rd - Diocletian
4th - Constantine
5th - Atilla
6th - Justinian
7th - Mohammad
8th - Charlemagne
9th -
10th
11th - William the Conqueror
12th - Saladin
13th - Genghis Khan
14th -
15th - Christopher Columbus
16th - Elizabeth I
17th -
18th - Thomas Jefferson
19th - Napoleon Bonaparte
20th - Winston Churchill
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2006, 11:08:07 PM »
« Edited: January 09, 2006, 08:24:38 PM by Jake »

0-100 - Saint Paul
100-200 - Five Good Emperors
200-300 - Diocletion
300-400 - Constantine I
400-500 - Theodoric
500-600 - Justinian
600-700 - Mohammed
700-800 - Harun al-Rashid
800-900 - Charlemagne
900-1000 - ?
1000-1100 - Pope Urban II
1100-1200 - Saladin
1200-1300 - Genghis Khan
1300-1400 - Osman I
1400-1500 - Leonardo da Vinci
1500-1550 - Martin Luther
1550-1600 - Suleiman I
1600-1650 - Cardinal Richieliu
1650-1700 - Louis XIV
1700-1750 - Isaac Newton
1750-1800 - Frederick the Great
1800-1850 - Napoleon
1850-1900 - Victoria
1900-1950 - Hitler
1950-2000 - Gorbachev and Reagan
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2006, 01:48:50 AM »

1st - Saint Paul
2nd - Five Good Emperors
3rd - Diocletion
4th - Constantine I
5th - Theodoric
6th - Justinian
7th - Mohammed
8th - Harun al-Rashid
9th - Charlemagne
10th - ?
11th - Pope Urban II
12th - Saladin
13th - Genghis Khan
14th - Osman I
15th - Leonardo da Vinci

1500-1550 - Martin Luther
1550-1600 - Suleiman I
1600-1650 - Gustavus Adolphus
1650-1700 - Louis XIV
1700-1750 - Isaac Newton
1750-1800 - Frederick the Great
1800-1850 - Napoleon
1850-1900 - Victoria
1900-1950 - Hitler
1950-2000 - Gorbachev and Reagan

Who the hell is Osman? Just stick with Edward II

St. Paul sucks, why would you rank him over Jesus?

You have too many Christian leaders and Muslims on this list. And Reagan! LMAO!!
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« Reply #15 on: January 09, 2006, 08:13:13 PM »

Osman was the founder of the Ottoman Empire. St. Paul affected the 1st Century much more than Christ, simply because of his influence in spreading Christianity. Christ may have been more influential overall, but St. Paul was more influential in the 1st Century, disregarding your Christianity hating. I have three Christian leaders; one who pretty much set Christianity in motion, one who set the Crusades in motion, and one who set the Reformation in motion. I have five Muslims; one who began the religion, one who spread it, one who was a fairly big player in the 11th/12th Centuries, one who started the most important Muslim Empire, and the aforementioned Empire's most important leader. If you dispute that the ending of the Cold War by Gorby and Reagan was the most important event of 1950-2000, you are hopelessly deluded. Then again, you said Einstein who's contributions are limited to a field of science.
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« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2006, 12:43:44 PM »

Whats more important a scientist that saves lifes like Fleming or Jennar or a politician that keeps/gives your national identity - churchill, washington
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2006, 02:19:45 PM »

You damn Anglo-saxons clearly overestimate William the Conqueror. Wink He wasn't that important. England was only small not so remarkable country on those days.

My choices

6th Gautama Buddha
5th Pericles
4th Alexander the Great (tough one, also Aristotle would be a good pick)
3th (? no clear winner here)
2nd (? nor here)
1st Julius Caesar
1st Jesus
2nd Hadrian
3th Diocletion
4th Constantine
5th Attila
6th Justian
7th Mohammed
8th ?
9th Charlemagne
10th Otto I the Great
11th Anyone but William the Conquer Wink
12th ?
13th Genghis Khan
14th Osman I
15th Christofer Columbus
16th Martin Luther
17th Louis XIV
18th Adam Smith (this is really tough one. My head is empty Sad)
19th Karl Marx (No contest here)
20th Adolf Hitler


Being a history teacher myself there are too many question marks, but I'm too tired to research or think this more right now. Sad
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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2008, 04:15:02 PM »

I'm Bumping this (sad person that I am) simply because it is an interesting endevour, you can tell alot about people by these lists, I'll try mine:

5th BC: Siddhartha Gautama (this was quite hard actually.. Socrates, Pythagoras, Conficus)
4th BC: Aristotle
3rd BC: Qin Shi Huang
2nd BC: Wu Ti
1st BC: Augustus
1st: Paul of Tarsus
2nd: Pliny the Younger
3rd: Diolectian
4th: Constantine I
5th: Attila the Hun
6th: Gregory the Great
7th: Mohammed
8th: Charlemagne
9th: Al-Khwarizmi
10th: Erik The Red
11th: Ibn al-Haytham
12th: Saladin
13th: Genghis Khan
14th: Dante (in the West, Tamerlane or The Founder of the Ming Dynasty in other places)
15th: Christopher Colombus
16th: Martin Luther
17th: Isaac Newton (Probably the Easiest of all the "Modern" ones.)
18th: Jean Jacques Rousseau (Pretty hard.. Frederick The Great, Louis XIV, Voltaire..)
19th: Napoleon Bonaparte (this is actually the hardest.. Darwin, Marx, Bismarck...)
20th: Sigmund Freud (so sue me)

I admit to wiki-ing to find some of them. The 3rd and 10th centuries seem particularly bare.
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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2008, 12:42:43 AM »
« Edited: May 30, 2008, 05:40:18 PM by Vice-Chairman ザハル (さはる) »

I'll admit to a bit of Germanophilia, which shows here. I'll do more later.

1650-99: Louis XIV
1700-49: Peter I
1750-99: Catherine II
1800-49: Metternich
1850-99: Bismarck
1900-49: Hitler
1950-99: Gorbachev
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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2008, 06:56:32 AM »

I'll admit to a bit of Germanophilia, which shows here. I'll do more later.

1650-99: Louis XIV
1700-49: Peter I
1750-99: Catherine II
1800-49: Mitterand
1850-99: Bismarck
1900-49: Hitler
1950-99: Gorbachev

Mitterand? Huh? You mean Metternich, right? (Surely, Napeolon)
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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2008, 10:36:24 AM »

What is the criteria?
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« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2008, 05:40:02 PM »

I'll admit to a bit of Germanophilia, which shows here. I'll do more later.

1650-99: Louis XIV
1700-49: Peter I
1750-99: Catherine II
1800-49: Mitterand
1850-99: Bismarck
1900-49: Hitler
1950-99: Gorbachev

Mitterand? Huh? You mean Metternich, right? (Surely, Napeolon)

Damn!

And I consider Metternich more important than Napoleon, actually.
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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2008, 10:41:36 PM »

If we can do it by half century

1500-1550 Martin Luther
1550-1600 Queen Elizabeth I
1600-1650 Cardinal Richelieu
1650-1700 John Locke
1700-1750 Voltaire
1750-1800 Frederick the Great and Adam Smith
1800-1850 Karl Marx
1850-1900 Queen Victoria
1900-1950 Adolf Hitler
1950-2000 To early to asess.

I agree with this except I would put either someone like Cecil Rhodes or Charles Darwin for 1850-1900 and maybe John Hawkins for 1550-1600. You can tell I think monarchs are very overrated. Tongue

Victoria in paticular. She merely presided, she didn't actually do anything important herself.

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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2008, 12:48:49 AM »
« Edited: May 31, 2008, 12:55:48 AM by Torie »

Great list from what I know, but I would switch out Victoria for Lincoln. The now lone superpower changed in massive ways, in ways it would not have changed but for Lincoln, whose character has inspired the planet. He is spoken of with admiration in the most remote places on the globe. For the last half of the 20th century, I would put Kennan up there, and Gandhi although he was dead by then. The guy (Prince Klemens Wenzel von Metternich)who put together the peace treaty of 1815 (Treaty of Paris) that held more or less until 1914 is in the running for the first half of the 19th century.
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