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« on: September 07, 2019, 01:14:07 pm »

If Trump wins again in 2020, who will the 2024 Dem nominee be?
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2019, 01:15:16 pm »

Rashida Tlaib
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2019, 01:16:00 pm »


Great post, I would love to see her be the D nominee in 2024.
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2019, 01:21:30 pm »

Gretchen Whitmer
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2019, 01:57:53 pm »

Depends on who he beats in 2020.
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2019, 02:12:53 pm »

Far too early to tell. Newsom, Whitmer, Chris Murphy, Duckworth, Merkley, Cortez Masto, Baldwin, Brown, and Cooper all seem like they might go for the nomination. Maybe one of the also-rans from this year, like Harris, Booker or Klobuchar. I don't see AOC getting it, especially if the losing 2020 nominee is Warren or Bernie.

Plus there could always be some new person who comes out of nowhere.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2019, 02:15:27 pm »
« Edited: September 07, 2019, 06:14:08 pm by Grand Mufti of Northern Virginia »

No idea, but I can tell you it wonít be Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, or any other old fart.  2020 is the Old Guardís last throw of the dice.  We are going to see entirely new and younger generations (mainly Generation Xers and Millennials) dominate the nomination battle.  It will be even more wide open in 2024 than it is now.  
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2019, 02:17:59 pm »

Probably someone who isn't even on the radar yet.

I hate to say it, but I can honestly see it being a celebrity candidate - or, if it's a politician, then it'll be someone well to the left of the Democratic mainstream. After two terms of Trump, the Democratic base will be wanting to throw a brick at the Democratic establishment - and this is doubly true if the 2020 nominee is Joe Biden or another establishment-friendly figure. Heck, even if it's Bernie who loses in 2020, his wing of the party will probably put it down to him being "too centrist" or "too neoliberal" in the general election campaign...
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2019, 02:27:42 pm »

Warren will be 75 in 2024. That will be a tough sell if either Biden or Sanders loses to Trump.

My entirely serious answer to this question is a name that few even dare mention on this forum: Andrew Cuomo.
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2019, 02:30:09 pm »

It would be Sherrod Brown, he was ready to run for Prez in 2020, if Biden somehow fails; which he wont, it will be Brown
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2019, 02:31:19 pm »

Warren will be 75 in 2024. That will be a tough sell if either Biden or Sanders loses to Trump.

My entirely serious answer to this question is a name that few even dare mention on this forum: Andrew Cuomo.

Is Cuomo popular in New York? I thought no one really liked him, even offline.
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2019, 02:37:38 pm »

Neil Abercrombie. It's his turn.
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2019, 02:42:33 pm »

AOC.
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2019, 02:48:00 pm »

Someone that represents the path to M4A, no questions asked. The nominee is probably not even on anyone's radar.
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2019, 03:04:07 pm »
« Edited: September 07, 2019, 03:08:02 pm by АverroŽs 🦉 »

Warren will be 75 in 2024. That will be a tough sell if either Biden or Sanders loses to Trump.

My entirely serious answer to this question is a name that few even dare mention on this forum: Andrew Cuomo.

Is Cuomo popular in New York? I thought no one really liked him, even offline.

He was popular enough to win reelection in a landslide despite cratering Upstate. A well-funded left-wing primary challenge, outrage over the SAFE Act, corruption trials for various cronies - none of it made a difference.

And that's exactly why he would make sense. No matter how much everyone seems to hate him, no matter how outraged various party factions get over his behavior, and no matter how much heat he catches from his center and left flanks alike, Cuomo always wins. Who better to take up the Democratic mantle after two terms of Donald Trump than someone who can campaign openly as a partisan thug? (But one who, nonetheless, is not particularly ideological or likely to raise middle class taxes.)
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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2019, 04:10:13 pm »

Sherrod Brown, Gretchen Whitmer, Tammy Baldwin, and Gavin Newsom come to mind. I could see alot of the people going nowhere this time around giving it another go. I do think Biden would lose to Trump, and if he did I think it would be even more contentious than it is now.
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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2019, 04:26:39 pm »

Depends heavily on who lost and what the CW is on why they lost. 

"Biden lost because he was too boring/moderate" = activist left pick, probably favors someone young and nonwhite: AOC/Abrams/Jayapal/Pressley/Gavin Newsom/maybe Sherrod Brown

"Sanders/Warren lost because they were too socialist" = establishment pick, with a notable pro-business streak and executive experience being a plus: Whitmer/Cooper/Walz/Lujan Grisham/Sinema/Kelly if she wins reelection, maybe Booker/Klobuchar (their time may have passed?) or some moderate elected to gov/sen in a Trump state in 2020/22.  Mark Kelly sticks out as someone with national potential if he flips the other AZ seat.


"Biden/Sanders/Warren lost because they were too old/didn't connect with Millennials" = Buttigieg/AOC/Yang/JPK III if he wins the senate seat
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2019, 05:24:42 pm »


Be careful what you wish for, you might end up getting President Tlaib if the country is sick enough of Trump to vote for anything with a (D) next to their name.
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2019, 05:27:54 pm »


Be careful what you wish for, you might end up getting President Tlaib if the country is sick enough of Trump to vote for anything with a (D) next to their name.

At the same time, imagine the downballot backlash that would come under a Tlaib presidency.
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2019, 05:33:36 pm »

Don Blankenship
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« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2019, 05:46:26 pm »

No idea, but I can tell you it wonít be Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, or Bernie Sanders, or any other old fart.  2020 is the Old Guardís last throw of the dice.  And Iím on the fence about whether Elizabeth Warren will be the next-in-line assuming Biden wins the 2020 nomination but (barely) fails to beat Trump.  We are going to see entirely new and younger generations dominate the nomination battle.  It will be even more wide open in 2024 than it is now.
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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2019, 05:53:50 pm »

D-did I just ... hear you say ...
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2019, 06:08:05 pm »

Warren will be 75 in 2024. That will be a tough sell if either Biden or Sanders loses to Trump.

For whatever reason I thought she was younger, and would be about Reagan's age in 1980 when 2024 came around. 

Okay, never mind what I said about her.... 
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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2019, 06:46:46 pm »


Be careful what you wish for, you might end up getting President Tlaib if the country is sick enough of Trump to vote for anything with a (D) next to their name.

At the same time, imagine the downballot backlash that would come under a Tlaib presidency.

The pendulum always swings Tongue
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« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2019, 12:48:34 am »

My first thought was "some Governor who was first elected in 2018", but honestly looking at the roster...

Gavin Newsom: Sleazy as hell, all sorts of skeletons in his closet.
Steve Sisolak: Too conservative, boring, kind of old.
Michelle Lujan Grisham: Maybe if she can actually get news for something? Seems kind of boring and generic but potential might be there.
Jared Polis: Too many shady ties like with Bitcoin.
Laura Kelly: Really boring and old. If she gets reelected she could run on the electability angle but I doubt people will care especially as she didn't so much win as the Kansas GOP lost (and that would probably be true in 2022 if she wins as well.)
Tim Walz: As much as I love this guy, I'd be very surprised if he's interested, and he's probably aware his Midwestern folksiness is the big part of his appeal and that would go nowhere nationally (especially after Klobuchar's failure to capitalize on it.)
Tony Evers: Old and almost certainly not interested.
JB Pritzker: I know Democrats have kind of turned around on him...but come on. Though I'll grant he's not as laughable of a Presidential candidate as Peter Florrick would've been.
Gretchen Whitmer: ...maybe? Actually pretty plausible.
Ned Lamont: Unpopular, unlikely to improve, already proven he's not really that great at campaigns or primaries unless he has the entire progressive movement backing him, which he sure won't this time.
Janet Mills: Old and boring.

Andrew Gillum would've been a contender had he won...but not Stacey Abrams, who has always been a laughably overhyped candidate who I frankly goes away forever (especially since it looks like Georgia might be developing a decent Democratic bench without her.)

Although looking at pre-existing Governors Tom Wolf would be a fantastic candidate except he's too old and almost certainly not interested. Phil Murphy actually looks pretty good on his record until you consider the optics of "former Goldman Sachs guy from New Jersey." For Cuomo, I'll just note that he's incredibly dull, uncharismatic and has a non-neglible chance of being indicted by then.

So I'm going to go with some Senator who isn't running now but is making a bit of a name for themselves and is sufficiently charismatic and high energy, like Chris Murphy or Tammy Duckworth, or some dark horse like Pete Buttigieg who isn't even on the radar yet.
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