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« on: September 16, 2019, 07:15:32 PM »

From The Stranger: Hundreds of Fans Walked Out of Sunday’s Sounders Game

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Sounders fans had plenty to cheer about Sunday in their team's 4-2 win, but by the end of the match the Sounders' most loyal supporters were nowhere to be seen. Hundreds of fans had left the CenturyLink stadium mid-game after officials stopped them from flying an anti-fascist flag because it was too overtly political.

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The flag in question is the so-called “Iron Front” flag, a banner with three parallel arrows that was used by anti-Nazi organizers in Germany in the 1930s. Hitler banned the Iron Front out of Germany in 1933 and MLS took a similar tack earlier this year, telling fans that they could wear the Iron Front logo on T-shirts but Iron Front flag-waving would not be tolerated.

This is the flag in question:



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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2019, 07:16:38 PM »

i dont get it, isn't a group that opposed Hitler good
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2019, 07:24:08 PM »

Soccer Nazis
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2019, 07:46:54 PM »

How do we know that they're conservative?
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2019, 07:50:06 PM »


Whoever they are, they are offended by someone publicly professing that nazis are bad.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2019, 08:02:39 PM »


Whoever they are, they are offended by someone publicly professing that nazis are bad.

IIRC the flag is associated with radical leftist movements.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2019, 08:17:57 PM »
« Edited: September 16, 2019, 08:43:02 PM by Crumpets »


Censorship is inherently anti-liberal, and they certainly don't seem to be coming from a leftist angle here.

There's also the fact that this new policy just so happens to coincide with them announcing a major sponsorship agreement with Chick Fil A.

There's also the, uh, issue with certain far-right groups trying to claim NYCFC as their team. I don't really blame NYCFC or the MLS for this. But I have to question why they make such a point about banning antifa flags on the grounds of being too "overtly political" while making no such gesture towards the Empire State Ultras, simply because they wear their fascist symbols instead of waving them.



There are also loads of Cascadia flags at every Sounders/Timbers/Whitecaps match. And while those aren't overtly political, it's not like the people who wave those flags are waving them for a different reason than those waving the antifa flags. It's just the granola version of "Don't Tread on Me."
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2019, 08:50:15 PM »


Whoever they are, they are offended by someone publicly professing that nazis are bad.

IIRC the flag is associated with radical leftist movements.

The third arrow is just anti commie lol. It's just a succ den
symbol from 1930s Germany. You wouldn't catch me flying it but its fine.
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2019, 10:48:34 PM »

I agree, it's not like an Antifa flag.

I thought I had seen supporters of the more radical segments of the left.
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2019, 10:55:41 PM »

Giving safe spaces to swastika-tattooed, jew-assaulting literal nazis at sporting events to own the libs.
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2019, 07:41:47 AM »

If they are going to censor antifascist and anticommunist advocates but let stormtroopers be rowdy in the stands, I hope the ADL gets involved. It would be interesting if a professional athletic association gets labeled a hate group by the SPLC. It would be ridiculous and it doesn’t work and yet would still make more sense than labeling anti-fascists terrorists.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2019, 09:34:33 AM »

Nothing is cringier than US football fan culture.
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2019, 09:46:44 AM »

Nothing is cringier than US football fan culture.
to be fair, we are new at this.  We don't have the century of racism, classism and general violent thuggery behavior that leads to beating each other to death that you and the continentals have, maybe we'll get there.


cringy indeed
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2019, 11:21:12 AM »

Nothing is cringier than US football fan culture.
to be fair, we are new at this.  We don't have the century of racism, classism and general violent thuggery behavior that leads to beating each other to death that you and the continentals have, maybe we'll get there.


cringy indeed

What do you call the Antebellum and Gilded Age? We did an amazing job papering it over between the Great Depression, the New Deal, the Great Society, and the Civil Rights movement but after we declared "victory" over racism and sexism 50 years ago, it's been making a slow and steady comeback ever since. At least we are not casually tossing around the n-word in public yet.
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2019, 12:27:18 PM »

Nothing is cringier than US football fan culture.
to be fair, we are new at this.  We don't have the century of racism, classism and general violent thuggery behavior that leads to beating each other to death that you and the continentals have, maybe we'll get there.


cringy indeed

What do you call the Antebellum and Gilded Age? We did an amazing job papering it over between the Great Depression, the New Deal, the Great Society, and the Civil Rights movement but after we declared "victory" over racism and sexism 50 years ago, it's been making a slow and steady comeback ever since. At least we are not casually tossing around the n-word in public yet.

He's referring to soccer in particular.
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