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lfromnj
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« on: September 12, 2019, 11:26:57 PM »

Socialism requires that government becomes your God.
Your point is refuted with the existence of Anarchism.

And how do you propose to prevent mutually consensual contracts called  a job using anarchism?
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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2020, 09:22:40 AM »
« Edited: April 07, 2020, 09:42:12 AM by lfromnj »

Also, this idea that socialists are 'against work' is a huge strawman.  Socialism is about owning the fruits of your own labor, rather than selling it to someone else.

If you think your boss is entitled to what you create because he gave you the tools and raw materials, then why is he not also entitled to your wife because he gave you the job you use to support her?  We have a word for people like that.  It starts with C, and it's not 'capitalist'.

This is blatantly false as I have asked every socialist what we should do with non workers and they always give the answer of feed them its the humane option despite the fact feeding non workers would require stealing from workers.

And the 2nd question is simply because its not part of the mutually consensual agreement?

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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2020, 09:47:01 AM »

Also, this idea that socialists are 'against work' is a huge strawman.  Socialism is about owning the fruits of your own labor, rather than selling it to someone else.

If you think your boss is entitled to what you create because he gave you the tools and raw materials, then why is he not also entitled to your wife because he gave you the job you use to support her?  We have a word for people like that.  It starts with C, and it's not 'capitalist'.

This is blatantly false as I have asked every socialist what we should do with non workers and they always give the answer of feed them its the humane option despite the fact feeding non workers would require stealing from workers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_each_according_to_his_contribution

Still, while letting people die for sloth might be the rational choice, I don't regard it as the moral one.  This is the main dilemma of whether we value material goods over human life.

Then is it moral to steal from worker a to feed non worker B?
Im arguing this in a purely communist society too(which will never happen)

What if Worker A refuses to give up his fruit?
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2020, 10:47:31 AM »

So I think its clear communism isn't about keeping the fruits of your labor, when it comes to any realistic scenario for most communists.
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