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« Reply #525 on: November 11, 2019, 08:52:00 PM »

NH is probably an easier win for him than NV at this point (the Reid machine is backing Warren), but if he can win IA and NH, he has a pretty good shot at the nomination, better than what he would have had had he unambiguously won IA in 2016.
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« Reply #526 on: November 11, 2019, 09:16:36 PM »

Can't really see this happening.
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« Reply #527 on: November 11, 2019, 09:21:00 PM »

Bernie probably needs New Hampshire more than any other state.
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« Reply #528 on: November 11, 2019, 10:20:56 PM »

Swap New Hampshire and Iowa then yes.
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« Reply #529 on: November 11, 2019, 10:28:23 PM »

Highly unlikely he wins anything at this rate, no matter what his deranged cultists suggest. Warren still has a commanding lead in aggregate polling of both IA and NH.
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« Reply #530 on: November 11, 2019, 11:57:24 PM »

Highly unlikely he wins anything at this rate, no matter what his deranged cultists suggest. Warren still has a commanding lead in aggregate polling of both IA and NH.

Tell that to 1972 Democratic nominee Ed Muskie.
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« Reply #531 on: November 12, 2019, 08:06:35 AM »

Swap New Hampshire and Iowa then yes.
If he wins Iowa, he'll probably have the momentum to carry New Hampshire.
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« Reply #532 on: November 12, 2019, 08:36:46 AM »

NH is probably an easier win for him than NV at this point (the Reid machine is backing Warren), but if he can win IA and NH, he has a pretty good shot at the nomination, better than what he would have had had he unambiguously won IA in 2016.

Warren is doing bad with the Hispanic community. The media have largely focused on Buttigieg but Warren is totally similar. Sanders is leading among Hispanic voters in most polls & is 2nd to Biden among some. It would be easy for Warren. The first 3 early states are fairly fluid @ this point.

Highly unlikely he wins anything at this rate, no matter what his deranged cultists suggest. Warren still has a commanding lead in aggregate polling of both IA and NH.

The RCP average has - Biden 19.7, Warren 19,7, Bernie 19. The last 2 polls had Biden & Bernie leading & Warren is leading neither. This is a commanding lead in NH? Please stop peddling fake news.

Iowa has Warren ahead with a 4.3% lead but in 2 polls she is leading by 1% & in by 3%. If you consider committed voters who have decided, Warren is 3rd or 4th in both Iowa & NH & massively behind Bernie. Sanders has around 60% Surely vote voters while it is 30-40% at best for Warren.
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« Reply #533 on: November 12, 2019, 09:00:53 AM »

National Nurses United, the country’s largest nurses union group, will endorse Sen. Bernard Sanders for president this week, the group announced on Tuesday. “We need a president who makes it easier for us to stand together and hold our employers accountable for putting people above profits,” said NNU President Jean Ross. Ms. Ross cited Mr. Sanders’ support for a universal “Medicare for All” health care system, as well as his position on other issues such as climate change and labor rights.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/12/bernie-sanders-receive-endorsement-nurses-union-gr/

"I don't support — a mandatory buyback is essentially confiscation, which I think is unconstitutional," he replied. "It means that I am going to walk into your house and take something whether you like it or not. I don't think that stands up to constitutional scrutiny."

Sanders shared his gun control plan, which included taking an adversarial stance against the National Rifle Association, increasing background checks and banning the sale of assault weapons. "We cannot allow the NRA to dictate policy because they've intimidated [President] Trump and they've intimidated the Republican party," he added. "I'm not going to be intimidated by them."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernie-sanders-gun-buyback-confiscation-iowa-rally
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« Reply #534 on: November 12, 2019, 10:45:37 AM »

The three frontrunners dont include Sanders, Sanders isnt viable anymore
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« Reply #535 on: November 12, 2019, 10:48:30 AM »

If Sanders can win IA and NV, he will win NH. But it's still plausible. Don't underestimate Sanders in NV. He will be pretty strong outside of Clark County.
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« Reply #536 on: November 12, 2019, 10:50:05 AM »

Sanders is at 13% in IA, NH polls why does people keep saying he's viable?
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« Reply #537 on: November 12, 2019, 10:54:08 AM »

National Nurses United, the country’s largest nurses union group, will endorse Sen. Bernard Sanders for president this week, the group announced on Tuesday. “We need a president who makes it easier for us to stand together and hold our employers accountable for putting people above profits,” said NNU President Jean Ross. Ms. Ross cited Mr. Sanders’ support for a universal “Medicare for All” health care system, as well as his position on other issues such as climate change and labor rights.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/12/bernie-sanders-receive-endorsement-nurses-union-gr/

"I don't support — a mandatory buyback is essentially confiscation, which I think is unconstitutional," he replied. "It means that I am going to walk into your house and take something whether you like it or not. I don't think that stands up to constitutional scrutiny."

Sanders shared his gun control plan, which included taking an adversarial stance against the National Rifle Association, increasing background checks and banning the sale of assault weapons. "We cannot allow the NRA to dictate policy because they've intimidated [President] Trump and they've intimidated the Republican party," he added. "I'm not going to be intimidated by them."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernie-sanders-gun-buyback-confiscation-iowa-rally

Whenever NNU does something, it's just RoseAnn DeMoro.  NNU members have wanted her gone for years.
She endorsed and campaigned for Jill Stein in 2016.
NNU also operates a Super PAC for Bernie.  They (well, just Dictator DeMoro) spent millions of dollars supporting him in 2016.
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« Reply #538 on: November 12, 2019, 11:05:48 AM »

The NNU Super PAC spent more money supporting Sanders in 2016 than all PACs supporting Hillary Clinton combined.

Bernie Sanders: Super PAC candidate.
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« Reply #539 on: November 12, 2019, 11:14:24 AM »

But, Hilary was about to be indicted, somehow, I wish she was, and the nomination went to Bernie and he was doing better in the polls, in MI, WI and Pa, than losing a SCOTUS for a generation. Comey had the goods to indict Hilary, but necessarily a conviction
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« Reply #540 on: November 12, 2019, 12:09:38 PM »
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National Nurses United, the country’s largest nurses union group, will endorse Sen. Bernard Sanders for president this week, the group announced on Tuesday. “We need a president who makes it easier for us to stand together and hold our employers accountable for putting people above profits,” said NNU President Jean Ross. Ms. Ross cited Mr. Sanders’ support for a universal “Medicare for All” health care system, as well as his position on other issues such as climate change and labor rights.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/12/bernie-sanders-receive-endorsement-nurses-union-gr/

"I don't support — a mandatory buyback is essentially confiscation, which I think is unconstitutional," he replied. "It means that I am going to walk into your house and take something whether you like it or not. I don't think that stands up to constitutional scrutiny."

Sanders shared his gun control plan, which included taking an adversarial stance against the National Rifle Association, increasing background checks and banning the sale of assault weapons. "We cannot allow the NRA to dictate policy because they've intimidated [President] Trump and they've intimidated the Republican party," he added. "I'm not going to be intimidated by them."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernie-sanders-gun-buyback-confiscation-iowa-rally

Whenever NNU does something, it's just RoseAnn DeMoro.  NNU members have wanted her gone for years.
She endorsed and campaigned for Jill Stein in 2016.
NNU also operates a Super PAC for Bernie.  They (well, just Dictator DeMoro) spent millions of dollars supporting him in 2016.

You do realize RoseAnn DeMoro has been gone for a little less than 2 years, right?
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« Reply #541 on: November 12, 2019, 02:22:52 PM »

National Nurses United, the country’s largest nurses union group, will endorse Sen. Bernard Sanders for president this week, the group announced on Tuesday. “We need a president who makes it easier for us to stand together and hold our employers accountable for putting people above profits,” said NNU President Jean Ross. Ms. Ross cited Mr. Sanders’ support for a universal “Medicare for All” health care system, as well as his position on other issues such as climate change and labor rights.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/12/bernie-sanders-receive-endorsement-nurses-union-gr/

"I don't support — a mandatory buyback is essentially confiscation, which I think is unconstitutional," he replied. "It means that I am going to walk into your house and take something whether you like it or not. I don't think that stands up to constitutional scrutiny."

Sanders shared his gun control plan, which included taking an adversarial stance against the National Rifle Association, increasing background checks and banning the sale of assault weapons. "We cannot allow the NRA to dictate policy because they've intimidated [President] Trump and they've intimidated the Republican party," he added. "I'm not going to be intimidated by them."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernie-sanders-gun-buyback-confiscation-iowa-rally

Whenever NNU does something, it's just RoseAnn DeMoro.  NNU members have wanted her gone for years.
She endorsed and campaigned for Jill Stein in 2016.
NNU also operates a Super PAC for Bernie.  They (well, just Dictator DeMoro) spent millions of dollars supporting him in 2016.

You do realize RoseAnn DeMoro has been gone for a little less than 2 years, right?

Actually, I didn't know that.  She still acts like she's in charge of it so I just assumed she was.  Learn something new every day.
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« Reply #542 on: November 12, 2019, 09:13:38 PM »

Bernie is slowly creeping up in the polls and warren slipping down a bit
If he gives a very good performance in the november debate and she flops then he will be thrusted into 2nd place
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« Reply #543 on: November 12, 2019, 09:20:15 PM »

National Nurses United, the country’s largest nurses union group, will endorse Sen. Bernard Sanders for president this week, the group announced on Tuesday. “We need a president who makes it easier for us to stand together and hold our employers accountable for putting people above profits,” said NNU President Jean Ross. Ms. Ross cited Mr. Sanders’ support for a universal “Medicare for All” health care system, as well as his position on other issues such as climate change and labor rights.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/nov/12/bernie-sanders-receive-endorsement-nurses-union-gr/

"I don't support — a mandatory buyback is essentially confiscation, which I think is unconstitutional," he replied. "It means that I am going to walk into your house and take something whether you like it or not. I don't think that stands up to constitutional scrutiny."

Sanders shared his gun control plan, which included taking an adversarial stance against the National Rifle Association, increasing background checks and banning the sale of assault weapons. "We cannot allow the NRA to dictate policy because they've intimidated [President] Trump and they've intimidated the Republican party," he added. "I'm not going to be intimidated by them."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/bernie-sanders-gun-buyback-confiscation-iowa-rally

Whenever NNU does something, it's just RoseAnn DeMoro.  NNU members have wanted her gone for years.
She endorsed and campaigned for Jill Stein in 2016.
NNU also operates a Super PAC for Bernie.  They (well, just Dictator DeMoro) spent millions of dollars supporting him in 2016.

You do realize RoseAnn DeMoro has been gone for a little less than 2 years, right?

Actually, I didn't know that.  She still acts like she's in charge of it so I just assumed she was.  Learn something new every day.

Yeah, she's developed her own brand now.
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« Reply #544 on: November 12, 2019, 11:45:48 PM »

I think Bernie is the only candidate to mention the coup in Bolivia. He also might have been the only one to mention the situation with Lula.
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« Reply #545 on: November 13, 2019, 04:07:38 AM »

I think Bernie is the only candidate to mention the coup in Bolivia. He also might have been the only one to mention the situation with Lula.

People like to say that Bernie and Warren are exactly the same in terms of platform. But one stark area of contrast is clearly foreign policy.
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« Reply #546 on: November 13, 2019, 08:52:12 AM »

Bernie only got as far as her did in 2016, due to email drama of Clinton, and he was the candidate if Hilary got indicted. Biden is too strong of a candidate to let that happen to him and Sanders need to retire instead of traveling with his health issues should he go back to Senate
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« Reply #547 on: November 13, 2019, 08:57:26 AM »

Only-Bernie voters are less relevant than Never-Trump voters.
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« Reply #548 on: November 13, 2019, 11:18:23 AM »

I'll vote for the Democratic nominee as long as it isn't Bloomberg

I would prefer Bernie, and my second choice is Warren

I'll vote for Joe if he's the nominee in 2020, but I won't like it at all, and I'd be likely to back a primary challenger against him in 2024, if the chance were to arise
Almost exactly this but change vote to support.

I'm inclined to hold my nose down and support Biden and/or Klobuchar. But I wouldn't for Bloomberg and Clinton for example.
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« Reply #549 on: November 13, 2019, 12:30:34 PM »

The main problem isn't necessarily that Sanders supporters won't vote for the democratic nominee, it's that they might not promote that candidate and bring people along with them to the polls. This was one of the five reasons Michael Moore gave in July 2016 when he predicted a Trump win back then - he called this the "Depressed Sanders Vote."
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