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Huckleberry Finn
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« on: January 13, 2004, 07:49:12 AM »

Huh! Your declaration would be very radical even in Finland!
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Huckleberry Finn
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« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2004, 08:33:15 AM »

In fact you are so radical that there is NO significant political party in Finland, which could agree your purpose of nationalization. Only very small Communist Party (only 1 percent of vote) would support your declaration! Finnish Socialist abandoned that policy far time ago and moderate wing of Communist Party (Now as Left-Alliance) did so in 80's!!
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Huckleberry Finn
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2004, 07:23:33 AM »

Migrendel. I don't think so.  Nationalization would lead to collapse of economy and Finnish socialists in Left Alliance know that. (Maybe there is few left, who didn't realise that yet.) In other hand Social Democrat Party hasn't have real intrest about nationalization since 40's. They support free market economy (and so does Left Alliance) with strong social security and strong trade unions. In other hand also centrist and rightwing parties support welfare state with less taxes and transfer of incomes of cource. It's also interesting that most whitecollar unions is led by members of conservative National Coalition Party! Gustaf: How that thing is in Sweden?

Comments about that also from others!
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Huckleberry Finn
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2004, 08:57:21 AM »

Well. Sweden you have almost singlepartysystem.

In Finland Social Democrats got only about 24,5 percent of vote in last election and this is their normal support in the long period. Results of other parties: Centrists: 24,7 %, Conservatives: 18,6%, Left Alliance 9,9%, Greens 8,0%, Christian Democrats 5,3%, and Swedish People Party 4,6% (backing by Swedish speaking minority) Populists 1,6%
 
 

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Huckleberry Finn
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2004, 08:58:37 AM »

In other hand there is strong conservative business wing in Finnish National Coalition Party, which support  reduction of labour market's regulation.  
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Huckleberry Finn
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2004, 08:59:55 AM »

Hey! I Am Junior Member! At last!
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Huckleberry Finn
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2004, 06:36:53 AM »

I don't recall any economy that fell apart because of nationalization. One is tempted to say the Soviet Union, but I remind those people that the standard of living dramatically after the fall of the Czar and Kerensky, and since the fall, deprivation has increased and industrial productivity has declined. I suppose much of the resistance to nationalization is a fear of change, but the economy isn't working as it stands. We can only stop the problems that exist by trying new solutions, so I would advise those who denounce Socialism to either help us remake the economy, or put up with unemployment, unfair trade practices, and deprivation.


Small countries like Finland and Sweden are extremely dependent on worldeconomy.
Nationalization would hurt really much our export business. Who would buy our produces anymore? And majority holding of biggest companies is owned by foreigners and companies' do their business more and more in foreigcountries. Nationalizatrion would lead the real collapse!

Even small  Communist Party of Finland doesn't demand nationalization!!!

Nationalization would be wrong economypolicy, but it's also morally wrong. Richpeople have right their fortune and many shareholders are just ordinary people.

As political issue nationalization is dead.
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Huckleberry Finn
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2004, 05:34:18 PM »

No migrendel. It doesn't work. Man is greedy and selfish. Without selfinterest there would be very little (if any) economical growth.
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