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« Reply #225 on: January 24, 2020, 07:22:06 PM »

Emerson doesn't include undecideds. It was Biden +6 last time.

Biden + 7 actually. The new one is Biden +3.
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« Reply #226 on: January 24, 2020, 07:25:54 PM »

I'm guessing the colors are primary votes (like the live polls in 2018), but I can't decipher anything out of it.
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« Reply #227 on: January 24, 2020, 07:43:40 PM »

I would guess green is Sanders. Green seems to be more concentrated. Look at Polk, Johnson and Linn counties. Scott county has a strong green as well.

The purplish color is Biden or Pete. Just as present but not as dense, scattered in the more rural counties. There's also a strong purple tone in northern Johnson/southern Linn which would be the suburban corridor between IC & CR.

Blue is Warren?
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« Reply #228 on: January 24, 2020, 07:59:03 PM »

10 colors I can see
pink
green
purple
blue
grey
red
yellow
light blue
dark blue
dark pink
brown (page county)

one color could be for don't knows/refused.
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« Reply #229 on: January 24, 2020, 08:00:33 PM »

Concentration of caucus-goers based on their preferred candidate?

Location of campaign offices and/or organizers?

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« Reply #230 on: January 24, 2020, 08:50:36 PM »

10 colors I can see
pink
green
purple
blue
grey
red
yellow
light blue
dark blue
dark pink
brown (page county)

one color could be for don't knows/refused.

I think one color is also for people who got filtered out.
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« Reply #231 on: January 24, 2020, 09:34:54 PM »
« Edited: January 24, 2020, 09:39:52 PM by President Griffin »

I think:

  • Green is Sanders (pretty obvious distribution lining up with Sanders' demographics)
  • Pink is Buttigieg (prevalent in the eastern half in both rural and urban, but not western half)
  • Blue is Biden (decent distribution everywhere)
  • Gray is Klobuchar (clustered in northern half of the state, close to MN)
  • Purple is Warren (only color left that's somewhat prominent)

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« Reply #232 on: January 24, 2020, 09:37:08 PM »

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« Reply #233 on: January 24, 2020, 09:52:36 PM »

Also let's just remember that:

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« Reply #234 on: January 25, 2020, 12:44:37 AM »

I guess this will be a February debate qualifying poll, because it’s NYT and their previous IA poll counted as well.
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« Reply #235 on: January 25, 2020, 01:22:11 AM »

I guess this will be a February debate qualifying poll, because it’s NYT and their previous IA poll counted as well.

No, it won't be, because none of the Iowa polls counts towards inclusion in the Feb. 7th debate, since the debate in question happens after the caucuses, so polls of Iowa are kind of meaningless at that point.  It's Iowa *caucus results* that determine debate invitations, along with NH/NV/SC and national polls (and donor counts).
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« Reply #236 on: January 25, 2020, 01:59:40 PM »



lots of polls incoming this coming week

The CBS/YouGov poll is confirmed to include Iowa and some Super Tuesday States as well
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« Reply #237 on: January 25, 2020, 02:02:08 PM »


update:

ISU's final poll will be out on Thursday

Monmouth IA poll coming out sometime before the Caucus as well
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« Reply #238 on: January 25, 2020, 02:10:55 PM »

Can't wait. I just want Iowa to happen already.
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« Reply #239 on: January 25, 2020, 02:47:29 PM »



lots of polls incoming this coming week

The CBS/YouGov poll is confirmed to include Iowa and some Super Tuesday States as well

I'm going to junk those yougov polls up front.

Looking forward to those NH polls, Fox national is ok, just would've liked more if they polled IA
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« Reply #240 on: January 25, 2020, 03:43:56 PM »

After looking through a recent YouGOV polling memo I have serious concerns about their methodology. They simply ask way, way, way too many questions to respondents. I have to wonder what their completion rate is and if it interferes with their toplines.
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« Reply #241 on: January 25, 2020, 06:10:30 PM »

After looking through a recent YouGOV polling memo I have serious concerns about their methodology. They simply ask way, way, way too many questions to respondents. I have to wonder what their completion rate is and if it interferes with their toplines.

You might be surprised by how long the typical respondent will stay on the phone.

That suggests something about response bias in any telephone poll: People who don't feel a sense of obligation or desire to participate just refuse; those who do will answer eagerly and at length even on subjects in which they have neither interest nor considered opinions.

I wouldn't stay on the phone for thirty questions either, but my odds of voluntarily responding to a pollster at all are nil.

YouGov is online, though.  It's a lot easier, or at least more convenient, to answer a long survey using a browser than to stay on the phone a lont time.
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« Reply #242 on: January 25, 2020, 06:54:40 PM »

Can't wait. I just want Iowa to happen already.

Me too. It's going to be the first election in awhile where I don't actively care about the results and can just sit back and watch it unfold.
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« Reply #243 on: January 25, 2020, 07:13:10 PM »

Online polling when conducted properly is just as reliable as phone polling when conducted properly.

Methodology, not mode, is what matters.
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« Reply #244 on: January 25, 2020, 08:26:25 PM »



ABC National poll tonight at Midnight Eastern

(found thanks to OneJ)
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« Reply #245 on: January 25, 2020, 08:29:38 PM »



ABC National poll tonight at Midnight Eastern

(found thanks to OneJ)



Maybe Bernie tied or ahead? That's my guess.
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« Reply #246 on: January 25, 2020, 08:31:06 PM »


ABC National poll tonight at Midnight Eastern

(found thanks to OneJ)

They decide to release their results at midnight on a Saturday night?  What the heck?
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« Reply #247 on: January 25, 2020, 08:34:16 PM »

All these new polls getting released and we have yet to see something from Nevada. Tongue
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« Reply #248 on: January 25, 2020, 08:48:41 PM »



Maybe Bernie tied or ahead? That's my guess.

Could be that if the celebration is a celebration of the poll numbers unto themselves.  But if we're actually talking about real world impact from the poll, then the other obvious possibility is Yang getting 5% or more, which puts him within striking distance of qualification for the next debate.
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« Reply #249 on: January 25, 2020, 09:04:54 PM »

definitely a bernie surge, wouldnt make much sense to say this if biden, the consistent frontrunner, was leading.
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