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Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers
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« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2019, 08:36:47 PM »

Dems should never coronate frontrunners, as we found out in 2016, Hilary was a weaker candidate than expected. Warren, like Sanders, is scandal free. Biden like Hilary have scandals. As a result, workers party endorsed Warren
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« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2019, 09:10:35 PM »

I’m With Liz!
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2019, 09:31:35 PM »

inevitable she loses to trump yes
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2019, 09:32:08 PM »

good for you.  Most Americans don't want socialism
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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2019, 09:34:01 PM »

it would look horrible for the DNC if they exclude her if she doesn't get another qualifying poll because they discounted her 2 percent for wash post poll
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« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2019, 09:34:29 PM »


Please continue believing this, and tell all your friends that she can't win as well.
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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2019, 09:37:27 PM »


Please continue believing this, and tell all your friends that she can't win as well.
she can't win her positions are way outside the mainstream
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« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2019, 09:46:20 PM »

We gotta disenfranchise the olds, folks! No one over 50 should have a vote.
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« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2019, 09:57:28 PM »

Does anyone have a link to the crosstabs?
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« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2019, 10:07:05 PM »

Biden needs to drop out. He has 100% name recognition and this is all he could muster?
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« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2019, 10:08:26 PM »

it would look horrible for the DNC if they exclude her if she doesn't get another qualifying poll because they discounted her 2 percent for wash post poll

Nobody will care.
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« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2019, 10:08:30 PM »

Does anyone have a link to the crosstabs?

Scroll to the bottom of the DMR story:

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2019/09/22/iowa-poll-election-2020-iowa-caucus-elizabeth-warren-joe-biden-bernie-sanders-democrat-candidates/2370015001/#
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« Reply #37 on: September 21, 2019, 10:18:41 PM »

SN is trolling, any credible challenger can beat Trump, Dems arent socialistic, voters dont want ethically challenged people like Biden and Trump, whom have dealings with Ukraine and Big Oil
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« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2019, 03:47:41 AM »
« Edited: September 22, 2019, 05:09:56 PM by Speaker YE »


Please continue believing this, and tell all your friends that she can't win as well.
she can't win her positions are way outside the mainstream

Please, you don't even know her positions.
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« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2019, 03:54:15 AM »
« Edited: September 22, 2019, 05:10:55 PM by Speaker YE »


Please continue believing this, and tell all your friends that she can't win as well.
she can't win her positions are way outside the mainstream

Please, you don't even know her positions.

She underperformed Clinton last year, I mean she was the only incumbent democratic senator to do so (with Menendez). She is toxic with white non college voters, and would underperform in wealthy suburbs, nominating her would be a gift to Trump.
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« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2019, 04:30:40 AM »

LOL Bernie.

Literally has half the support Warren has in a state he got half the vote in last time.

Time to hang it up, old man.

Not that he will, but it's time.

Also I'm getting more and more convinced that Warren's gonna end up as the nominee.
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« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2019, 04:32:35 AM »

SN is trolling, any credible challenger can beat Trump, Dems arent socialistic, voters dont want ethically challenged people like Biden and Trump, whom have dealings with Ukraine and Big Oil

WTF are you talking about? The only "scandal" involving Biden in Ukraine is that he represented the administration's (and international commununity's) overwhelming position in calling for the ouster of a crooked prosecutor because he was NOT prosecuting corruption cases, including the one against the company his son was affiliated with. The entire thing makes no sense if you think about it for more than two seconds.

Besides, I thought you were one of the ones who was going around talking about how Biden was a total shoe-in?

As of now I support Warren, but the one thing I have ALWAYS supported and always will is rationality -- I don't see much of that in people who jump from one extreme conclusion to another and disregard the facts. Which unfortunately is like 90% of this board.
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« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2019, 04:45:36 AM »

SN is trolling, any credible challenger can beat Trump, Dems arent socialistic, voters dont want ethically challenged people like Biden and Trump, whom have dealings with Ukraine and Big Oil

WTF are you talking about? The only "scandal" involving Biden in Ukraine is that he represented the administration's (and international commununity's) overwhelming position in calling for the ouster of a crooked prosecutor because he was NOT prosecuting corruption cases, including the one against the company his son was affiliated with. The entire thing makes no sense if you think about it for more than two seconds.

Besides, I thought you were one of the ones who was going around talking about how Biden was a total shoe-in?

As of now I support Warren, but the one thing I have ALWAYS supported and always will is rationality -- I don't see much of that in people who jump from one extreme conclusion to another and disregard the facts. Which unfortunately is like 90% of this board.

You’re taking OC too seriously.
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« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2019, 05:34:48 AM »
« Edited: September 22, 2019, 05:38:30 AM by Cory Booker »

SN is trolling, any credible challenger can beat Trump, Dems arent socialistic, voters dont want ethically challenged people like Biden and Trump, whom have dealings with Ukraine and Big Oil

WTF are you talking about? The only "scandal" involving Biden in Ukraine is that he represented the administration's (and international commununity's) overwhelming position in calling for the ouster of a crooked prosecutor because he was NOT prosecuting corruption cases, including the one against the company his son was affiliated with. The entire thing makes no sense if you think about it for more than two seconds.

Besides, I thought you were one of the ones who was going around talking about how Biden was a total shoe-in?

As of now I support Warren, but the one thing I have ALWAYS supported and always will is rationality -- I don't see much of that in people who jump from one extreme conclusion to another and disregard the facts. Which unfortunately is like 90% of this board.

I only was talking about Biden being a shoe-in when Harris candidacy cratered. I was always against Biden and his positions on school segregation and have not donated a single penny to his campaign, or sign any of his petitions.  As I have donated to others and their campaign. This would continue if he is the nominee.

Republicans thinks Warren is beatable. The best is yet to come, cant wait to see who she picks as Veep
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« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2019, 07:10:24 AM »

Warren's positions of Medicare for all and giving health care to illegals will scare suburban whites . She is too pie in the sky
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« Reply #45 on: September 22, 2019, 07:54:01 AM »

Warren's positions of Medicare for all and giving health care to illegals will scare suburban whites . She is too pie in the sky

Scary indeed, giving people healthcare. Something Truman ran on in 1948.
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« Reply #46 on: September 22, 2019, 08:32:05 AM »

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Voters who caucused for Hillary in 2016:

Warren: 22%
Sanders: 0%

This could be Warren's trump card over Sanders.
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« Reply #47 on: September 22, 2019, 08:44:13 AM »

fav/unfav % among Dems:
Warren 75/17% for +58%
Buttigieg 69/13% for +56%
Harris 63/24% for +39%
Booker 60/22% for +38%
Biden 66/29% for +37%
Klobuchar 52/22% for +30%
O’Rourke 55/27% for +28%

Biden only fifth in favorability in Iowa, and only barely ahead of Klobuchar and Beto, is a big crisis for him. If he doesn't finish higher than 5th in Iowa, there's no way his campaign can survive with all the hype his campaign has been surrounded in all year long.
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« Reply #48 on: September 22, 2019, 09:18:19 AM »
« Edited: September 22, 2019, 09:33:09 AM by The Mikado »

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Voters who caucused for Hillary in 2016:

Warren: 22%
Sanders: 0%

This could be Warren's trump card over Sanders.

Where'd you find this? I didn't find who you caucused for previously in the PDF.

EDIT: Found it.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/cnn-iowa-poll-09-22-2019/h_4d9b0b0b8153f065b052c2367a90415e

Clinton 2016 caucusgoers:

Biden 29%
Warren 22%
Sanders 0%

Sanders 2016 caucusgoers:

Warren 32%
Sanders 25%
Biden 6%

Doesn't list the other candidates.
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« Reply #49 on: September 22, 2019, 09:41:07 AM »

Literally none of Hillary supporters will caucus for Bernie. LMAO! He’s DOA.
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