MO-Remington/MO Scout: Biden -11, Warren -14, Sanders -17

[GeorgiaModerate]

Fringe of competition in 2020. Texas will be more competitive.

Lunatic fringe, maybe.

[IceSpear]

Still doesn't prove that Missouri is going to vote to the right of Kansas. I'll believe that when I see it.

Kansas voted 3 points to the left of Missouri in the 2018 House popular vote. It also swung/trended D in 2016 while Missouri simultaneously swung/trended heavily R. On top of that, Democrats actually won a significant statewide office there with the Republican nominee getting a mere 43% of the vote, while Missouri voted out its incumbent Democratic Senator by a decent sized margin.

[Politician]

Kansas voted 3 points to the left of Missouri in the 2018 House popular vote.

That's funny, WV voted Republican by 18 points in the 2018 House Popular Vote. I guess WV will be won by Trump with under 60% and will heavily trend Democratic in 2020?

It also swung/trended D in 2016 while Missouri simultaneously swung/trended heavily R.

True, but 2016 trends aren't guaranteed to uniformly repeat in 2020.

On top of that, Democrats actually won a significant statewide office there with the Republican nominee getting a mere 43% of the vote, while Missouri voted out its incumbent Democratic Senator by a decent sized margin.

Comparing governor's races to Senate races is a fool's errand. Can I use MO-AUD as "evidence" that MO is still a swing state?

Now obviously, both states are unwinnable for Democrats. I do think KS will vote to MO's left, it's just not a guarantee.

[IceSpear]

^None of those points "prove" anything in and of themselves obviously, but the fact of the matter is there's quite a bit of evidence that points to the idea of KS voting to the left of MO.

[Holy Unifying Centrist]

Kansas will vote dem in 2020

[KaiserDave]

Safe R, will vote to the right of Kansas.

[jamestroll]

Junk state.

Yup. Most Missourians are racist hicks and are very large. Like they need to lose weight and stop smoking cigarettes and meth.

I am not saying the left in Missouri is all clean either. To this day I believe that the Ferguson circus killed the Democratic Party on the state level. On the state level the Democratic would have still been rather viable. Oh well.

Are you all daft? Missouri is a perennial swing state and the best bellwether. Yes, Al Gore and John Kerry lost it, but it was still competitive. And Clinton won it twice. I think we could definitely take it back with a Mark Warner/Evan Bayh ticket.

A Mark Warner/Evan Bayh ticket would have carried the state in a hypothetical 2006 presidential election. At the time that was the climate. Post 2008 primaries everything has changed dramatically.

[pbrower2a]

Fringe of competition in 2020. Texas will be more competitive.

Lunatic fringe, maybe.

It's been a month, and the news involving Donald Trump has gotten even worse. A new poll would be interesting. The problem is that Donald Trump may be "lunatic" and "fringe" in his unique ways.