Gay marriage map

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They should. I was simply pointing out his hypocrisy.

What hypocrisy?  You were complaining about his argument.

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What hypocrisy?

He refuses to endorse incestuous marriage, while whining about "equal rights" for homosexual couples.

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What are you talking about?

Oh, somehow I managed to read only the first sentence of your post and missed the question about incestuous couples.  I'm a moron.  Sorry.

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http://www.maine.gov/sos/cec/elec/2005/ref05.htm

Question 1 here.

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The map:



Green counties voted to repeal the anti-discrimination law; red ones kept it.

Range was 35% (Cumberland) to 60% (Aroostook).

Interestingly, French Canadians seemed to have narrowly voted yes.

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Alcon,

Have any other states had any statewide referenda on any gay rights issue other than marriage?

I'll be uploading some more maps related to the homosexual conspiracy this afternoon.  It's one of my favourite issues to track.

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2006: Colorado narrowly rejects domestic partnerships


Data here

Gains versus Bush performance
Costilla +103.6% (67%)
Conejos +52.8% (59%)
Las Animas +40.7% (41%)
Pueblo +38.5% (38%)
Otero +23.4% (38%)

I think everyone can pretty much figure out what the second number I gave was, and why this measure failed.

On the other hand...

Losses versus Bush performance
Pitkin -21.6%
Summit -17.0%
Eagle -16.3%
Douglas -13.6%
Routt -8.9%

I doubt I need to explain that either.

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2006: Colorado passes gay marriage ban


Data here

Worst performances versus Bush
Jackson -27.7
Rio Blanco -12.0%
Kiowa -8.5%
Routt -8.2%
Custer -7.7%

Best performances versus Bush
Costilla +97.5%
Conejos +56.1%
Las Animas +43.4%
Pueblo +43.2%
Denver +28.6%

If anyone can explain to me why Jackson County voted like this:

President - 76% Bush
Domestic partnerships - 76% no
Gay marriage ban - 55% yes

...I'd be interested in hearing it.

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This is kind of neat: the user-made Colorado maps are on the first page for a Google result for Colorado election results.

Anyway...

2000: Oregon narrowly avoids banning ballroom dancing classes, or whatever a ban on encouraging homosexuality in public schools would do


Data here.  An interesting examination of how attitudes about homosexuality aren't entirely partisan line, and how the inland west isn't nearly as conservative Christian as many people assume based on its Republicanness.

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Oregon: Difference between Measure 9 performance and 2000 Bush performance
Grant -19.2%
Wallowa -18.9%
Sherman -16.3%
Gilliam -15.6%
Union -14.5%
Harney -12.9%
Lake -12.2%
Benton -11.6%
Baker -9.8%
Malheur -7.6%
Klamath -7.4%
Wheeler -6.8%
Deschutes -5.6%
Morrow -5.5%
Washington -5.0%
Umatilla -4.4%
Jackson -3.6%
Polk -1.0%
Douglas -0.3%
Yamhill -0.2%
Crook +0.5%
Jefferson +0.5%
Curry +2.0%
Coos +2.0%
Wasco +2.1%
Marion +2.3%
Clackamas +2.7%
Josephine +2.9%
Linn +3.2%
Clatsop +4.7%
Lane +4.8%
Tillamook +6.2%
Hood River +6.6%
Lincoln +7.2%
Multnomah +16.2%
Columbia +21.7%

Columbia County makes sense - it's a working-class area with socially conservative, economically liberal leans.  What's interesting is that this measure performed relatively better in areas that hardly seem to have those sort of leans (liberal Multnomah, liberal touristy Lincoln and Hood River) - the only explanation I can offer there is old-school, elderly Democrats (especially in Lincoln) and Hispanics (Hood River).  And the measures tend to perform relatively better than Dems in ultra-liberal areas and relatively worse than Republicans in ultra-conservative ones.

What really surprised me is how poorly it performed in the Columbia River counties, which have a Democratic union(?) tradition.  They were solidly Republican by 2000.  Another thing that I just can't explain.

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How come Coos county was that close?

Coos has a solid economically liberal union base, but it's not socially conservative.  The socially conservative union base has since become Republican.  It's a moderate county.  It's pretty much a standard 55% Republican, 45% Democratic county at this point.  It's lost the interestingness that came from being a union county.

Btw, could you explain the patterns in this map?

I might be able to, if I knew what it was a map of. 

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Referendum on exempting death sentences from protections to do with cruel and vindictive punishment.

Ohhh, I remember talking to Bob about this.

No - I have NO idea.  It's among the weirdest maps I've ever seen.  Malheur County is literally the last county in Oregon I would have expected to vote no.  The single most confusing election result I've ever seen.

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Bob, two quick questions:

1. Where did you get those county results?  (I can do a quick data upload so we can see sexy percentages and stuff)

2. Anything you can tell me about why the Columbia River counties are so Republican if they aren't exactly fully right-winged on either social or economic issues?  More of an institiutional Republican shift, kind of like in Coos County?

I don't know much about them, but in my summer driving tour (after which I'll have been to every county in the state except for San Juan), I'll be right across the stateline.  It doesn't seem to share much in common with our side of the River.

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Environmental issues probably play a big role.

Hmm, interesting.  Logging areas?  I've always wondered if areas that are hyper-Republican due to anti-environmentalism (like Forks, WA) are also very socially conservative.  I guess it isn't necessarily so.

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Looks like about half the states have had a statewide referendum on gay marriage. I made a list earlier this thread about the most gay friendly county in each state. Does anyone want to take a stab at guessing for the other states, what would be each state's best county for opposing gay marriage bans?

My guesses:

AL: Who knows...probably one of the Kerry counties, though, if MS is an indicator
CT: New Haven, maybe?  Hartford?
DE: New Castle
FL: Broward?
IA: Johnson?
IL: Cook, obviously
IN: Monroe
ME: Cumberland
MA: Berkshire
MN: Ramsey
NE: Already voted in 2000, and Douglas
NH: Probably Cheshire
NJ: Essex, maybe Hudson
NM: Taos, maybe Santa Fe
NC: Durham?
PA: Philadelphia
RI: Providence
VT: Windham
WA: San Juan
WV: No real idea
WY: Teton, obviously

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Looks like about half the states have had a statewide referendum on gay marriage. I made a list earlier this thread about the most gay friendly county in each state. Does anyone want to take a stab at guessing for the other states, what would be each state's best county for opposing gay marriage bans?

NE: Already voted in 2000, and Douglas

I missed that. Do you have a link to the results or map?

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?year=2000&off=61&elect=0&fips=31&f=0

It was later overturned.

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South Dakota's (like Arizona's) banned domestic partnerships and civil unions.  Those kind of bans just aren't really viable outside of conservative states anymore.

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Arizona rejected an unusually draconian ban in 2006.

In 2009, Washington State passed a referendum that gave gay domestic partnerships all the civil rights of straight marriages.

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That looks a little better.

How come New England isn't more red?  I thought the one state still holding out against gay marriage was Rhode Island.  

Voting results, not legal status.  The Northeast doesn't do many public referendums