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« Reply #150 on: November 16, 2019, 04:19:30 PM »

She won by almost 14% in a DEM wave year. This is a Trump +14 district. She will not lose.

That doesn't change the fact that she initially tried to sell herself as a Moderate Hero and now suddenly became a bona fide MAGA troll.
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« Reply #151 on: November 16, 2019, 04:40:15 PM »

She probably won't lose but upstate New York can be weird at times.
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« Reply #152 on: November 16, 2019, 05:49:02 PM »

Tedra Cobb will definitely do better than she did in 2018, given that she gets the nomination.
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« Reply #153 on: November 16, 2019, 06:06:12 PM »

I don't go on Twitter much but what is with this trend of Trumpists using checks and x's to get their points across? It looks childish.
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« Reply #154 on: November 16, 2019, 06:17:13 PM »
« Edited: November 16, 2019, 06:20:23 PM by Deluded retread Vice Chair LFROMNJ »

#Resistance cash has flowed in.


Its not unwinnable like Ky senate but more like CA 22
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« Reply #155 on: November 16, 2019, 06:19:58 PM »

Stefanik really fell off the deep end...



Her challenger raised $400K since the stunt



I don’t think she’ll lose BUT the district is only R+4 so 🤷🏻‍♂️

This probably helps her more then hurts. Ignore the Obama numbers, this is the Republican counterpart to AZ-9/VA-10 etc etc. She's not losing.
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« Reply #156 on: November 16, 2019, 06:21:27 PM »

Nick Freitas is a pretty weak candidate though, so I can understand the rating change if that is who the Republicans are settling on, but I also think it's silly to have VA-2 as a tossup right now.

Out of curiosity, why is Freitas a weak candidate?

He was a really strong candidate until 2019. This year, he tried to have a family member primary a moderate GOPer in the state senate, which failed. He in general threw himself behind the slew of more conservative primaries, only one of which succeeded and ended up giving the democrat the seat. He than went around to all the out of state donors brandishing his credentials but in the process forgot to submit the paperwork to properly run for reelection. His seat ironically became a battleground. After losing a lawsuit to try and get on the ballot, he had to call in tons of donor favors to run a serious write-in campaign. Freitas ended up winning that write-in campaign, but only after groups like the NRA had to bail him out with millions in ads on how to write Freitas. His star has certainly diminished over the past eleven months.

Finally, there is the fact Freitas Repp's the rural north of the seat and not the suburbs where the votes are, but that is not his fault.

Thanks for this btw. Great summary.
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« Reply #157 on: November 16, 2019, 06:29:13 PM »

She won by almost 14% in a DEM wave year. This is a Trump +14 district. She will not lose.

That doesn't change the fact that she initially tried to sell herself as a Moderate Hero and now suddenly became a bona fide MAGA troll.

Dropping the Moderate Hero act isn't going to stop Trumpists (a majority of her district's electorate based on 2016 vote share) from electing her.

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It is a bit funny though that Stefanik's whole shtick was about making a concerted effort to bring women/diversity into the GOP caucus and overnight she's become a hero to the MAGA crowd.
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« Reply #158 on: November 17, 2019, 12:31:57 AM »

She won by almost 14% in a DEM wave year. This is a Trump +14 district. She will not lose.

That doesn't change the fact that she initially tried to sell herself as a Moderate Hero and now suddenly became a bona fide MAGA troll.

Dropping the Moderate Hero act isn't going to stop Trumpists (a majority of her district's electorate based on 2016 vote share) from electing her.

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It is a bit funny though that Stefanik's whole shtick was about making a concerted effort to bring women/diversity into the GOP caucus and overnight she's become a hero to the MAGA crowd.

The Trumpists are now praising Stefanik, because of how she has turned herself into a full-throated defender of Trump at these hearings. She and Zeldin both have become High Priests of the Church of Trump. Now I can understand why many Democrats do not trust even moderate Republicans. We also saw this with Susan Collins and her defense of Kavanaugh last year.
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« Reply #159 on: November 17, 2019, 10:38:50 AM »

While those of us who dislike Trump are going to find Stefanik’s transformation into a hardcore Trumpist cringeworthy and shallow, it’s (unfortunately) not a bad electoral strategy in a district that is trending Republican and went pretty strongly Republican in 2016. Republicans seem to understand better than Democrats how important base turnout is these days, and that merely being “moderate” doesn’t woo hoards of swing voters.
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« Reply #160 on: November 17, 2019, 11:18:55 AM »

Can anyone tell me if there's a source to find who are the challengers in each district so far? I'm trying to find out who are the current R challengers for PA-04, PA-05, PA-06, PA-07, and PA-08, if any
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« Reply #161 on: November 17, 2019, 01:07:42 PM »

Can anyone tell me if there's a source to find who are the challengers in each district so far? I'm trying to find out who are the current R challengers for PA-04, PA-05, PA-06, PA-07, and PA-08, if any
Ballotpedia has everything you need.
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« Reply #162 on: November 17, 2019, 10:40:51 PM »

The Kavanaugh discussion is off-topic for this thread.
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« Reply #163 on: November 18, 2019, 07:18:11 AM »

Cobb raised $1 million+

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« Reply #164 on: November 18, 2019, 09:23:16 AM »

Cobb raised $1 million+


McGrath is raising how much again?
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« Reply #165 on: November 18, 2019, 11:03:12 AM »

While those of us who dislike Trump are going to find Stefanik’s transformation into a hardcore Trumpist cringeworthy and shallow, it’s (unfortunately) not a bad electoral strategy in a district that is trending Republican and went pretty strongly Republican in 2016. Republicans seem to understand better than Democrats how important base turnout is these days, and that merely being “moderate” doesn’t woo hoards of swing voters.

I feel a distinction here is that while the Republican coalition is overwhelmingly conservative the Democratic one is a mix of liberals and moderates.
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« Reply #166 on: November 18, 2019, 07:01:25 PM »

It's official: Steve Knight is running again in CA-25:
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« Reply #167 on: November 18, 2019, 07:41:40 PM »

It's official: Steve Knight is running again in CA-25:


It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
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« Reply #168 on: November 19, 2019, 10:22:56 AM »

She won by almost 14% in a DEM wave year. This is a Trump +14 district. She will not lose.

That doesn't change the fact that she initially tried to sell herself as a Moderate Hero and now suddenly became a bona fide MAGA troll.

Dropping the Moderate Hero act isn't going to stop Trumpists (a majority of her district's electorate based on 2016 vote share) from electing her.

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It is a bit funny though that Stefanik's whole shtick was about making a concerted effort to bring women/diversity into the GOP caucus and overnight she's become a hero to the MAGA crowd.

This place is historically Democratic and had a ton of Obama Trump voters. I wouldn't put odds on her losing, but it is definitely within the realm of reasonable possibility
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« Reply #169 on: November 19, 2019, 12:02:03 PM »

Josh Hicks announces run against Andy Barr in KY-06. He wasn't their first choice, but has the support of the DCCC.
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« Reply #170 on: November 19, 2019, 04:19:01 PM »


Safe R, yawn
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« Reply #171 on: November 19, 2019, 04:21:19 PM »

Btw, Dems now lead Republicans by just +6 in the generic ballot. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/

Still enough to hold the House, but doing 3 points better then 2018 would certainly be enough to ensure a net gain for the GOP, regardless of how NC/TX-23/24 turns out (22 and 21 are honestly overrated, even Beto couldn't win them).
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« Reply #172 on: November 19, 2019, 04:30:20 PM »

She won by almost 14% in a DEM wave year. This is a Trump +14 district. She will not lose.

That doesn't change the fact that she initially tried to sell herself as a Moderate Hero and now suddenly became a bona fide MAGA troll.

Dropping the Moderate Hero act isn't going to stop Trumpists (a majority of her district's electorate based on 2016 vote share) from electing her.

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It is a bit funny though that Stefanik's whole shtick was about making a concerted effort to bring women/diversity into the GOP caucus and overnight she's become a hero to the MAGA crowd.

This place is historically Democratic and had a ton of Obama Trump voters. I wouldn't put odds on her losing, but it is definitely within the realm of reasonable possibility

NY-21 (or rather its equivalent region) is actually ancestrally Republican. Obama won the current district both times, but so did George W. Bush - who won the area under its 2003-2013 lines in 2000 and 2004 in its previous iteration, NY-23. Republican congressmen have also represented the North Country throughout much of the 20th century, in addition to voting for Republican presidential candidates. I think a big part of Obama's win here was due to the economy at the time. Barring another major financial crisis, I have a difficult time seeing the voters who swung decisively to Trump swinging back to Democrats at Obama levels.
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« Reply #173 on: November 19, 2019, 06:59:19 PM »

Btw, Dems now lead Republicans by just +6 in the generic ballot. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/

Still enough to hold the House, but doing 3 points better then 2018 would certainly be enough to ensure a net gain for the GOP, regardless of how NC/TX-23/24 turns out (22 and 21 are honestly overrated, even Beto couldn't win them).

First of all, what is "Just +6"? Being 6 pts ahead doesn't justify a "just" infront of it. Not to mention there's a ton of undecideds still, and for most of the 2018 cycle, Dems were up by about 5-7 on average so this is... right inline with early 2018 polls.
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« Reply #174 on: November 19, 2019, 08:54:43 PM »

Btw, Dems now lead Republicans by just +6 in the generic ballot. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/

Still enough to hold the House, but doing 3 points better then 2018 would certainly be enough to ensure a net gain for the GOP, regardless of how NC/TX-23/24 turns out (22 and 21 are honestly overrated, even Beto couldn't win them).

First of all, what is "Just +6"? Being 6 pts ahead doesn't justify a "just" infront of it. Not to mention there's a ton of undecideds still, and for most of the 2018 cycle, Dems were up by about 5-7 on average so this is... right inline with early 2018 polls.

You're right, that was a kind of a hackish thing to say in hindsight. My apologies.
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