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johnpressman
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« on: October 30, 2019, 09:44:48 pm »

Never thought of Case as Nixon's VP in 1960.  Nixon asked Rockefeller to be his VP and Rocky was as liberal as Case.  Nixon probably believed that Case didn't have the charisma of a Rocky and the 45 Electoral votes of New York (as opposed to NJ's 16) was a big enough prize to risk losing some Southern states to JFK and LBJ.

I believe that Nixon's best VP choice in 1960 was Everett Dirksen. Ev was a terrific campaigner, could bring in Illinois' 27 Electoral College votes and could concentrate his campaign in the Midwest with an eye to winning Michigan 20 votes, Minnesota 11 votes and Missouri 13 votes for the GOP and the Presidency.
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2019, 11:27:44 am »

Irving Ives was no longer in office, having retired from the Senate in 1959 due to ill health.  

Jacob Javits was Jewish.  This is a nonstarter for a national candidate in the year 1960.

Kenneth Keating was a Catholic with less than two years tenure in the Senate, elected to Ives' seat.
Putting a Catholic on the ticket as VP would be seen as pandering to the Catholic vote as a counter to Kennedy's religion and might turn off Christian fundamentalist voters in the Midwest and border states.  He had no political following, was not a particularly effective campaigner and I question his ability to swing NY to the GOP.  His short time in the Senate would negate Nixon's "Experience Counts" campaign platform.

No. only Rocky had the (possible) ability to swing NY to the GOP, and he had no interest whatsoever to being Nixon's VP. Indeed, Rocky hoped Nixon would lose so he could run in 1964.

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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2019, 12:11:52 pm »
« Edited: November 09, 2019, 12:35:42 am by johnpressman »

Sorry, I may be much older than you, but America was a very different place in 1960 than it is today, both to the good and bad.

First, a Jewish VP candidate in 1960 would be a definite non-starter.  A Jewish VP would cost Nixon virtually all of his electoral votes and probably would not result in him winning NY.  

Second, I am very familiar with Kenneth Keating, having participated in a debate at school, representing Keating vs Robert Kennedy in the race for Senator from NY in 1964.  Keating was virtually unknown in 1960 and, once again, would not ensure Nixon carrying NY.  Only Rockefeller might carry the state for the GOP.  I say might in that the Catholic vote from NYC and Buffalo could still probably put NY in JFK's total. Nixon, however, thought it was worth the gamble to lose some Southern or border states to try to win NY's 42 electoral votes as Rocky was a terrific campaigner.

As for Rockefeller, he had no interest in being Nixon's running mate in 1960.  Rocky was 4 years older than Nixon and, if Nixon wins, he would have to wait until 1968 to run.  Being born a Rockefeller, anything less than the Presidency itself would be a step down.  Rocky was appointed VP to Ford in 1974 as he would be easy to confirm by the Senate post Watergate.  He was considered a liability to the GOP ticket in 1976 and was asked to step aside for Bob Dole as the VP candidate.

Lastly, Rockefeller, Case, Keating and Javits were all too liberal for the Republican ticket in 1960.  Nixon picked Henry Cabot Lodge, not for his political views or even for his ability (not) to put specific states' electoral votes in Nixon's column.  Nixon believed that Lodge's tenure as UN Ambassador would call attention to Nixon's foreign policy experience.  We saw how that worked.
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