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« Reply #225 on: October 27, 2019, 07:34:38 PM »

The fact that the blue avatars celebrate because a smear campaign by an abusive husband against his ex-wife has succeeded makes me sick.


May I ask what basis there is to call this a "smear campaign"?

Because she's a woman and he's a man. Best to just move past this and get a better Democrat in there.

Given that the Democrats have been getting destroyed in competitive elections post 2018, it'll be interesting to see if they can keep this seat.

Where?  In NC-9 and PA-12 the Democrats outperformed Trump's numbers.   In NC-3 the Republicans more or less just held their ground (in a very rural, safe R seat).

There literally hasn't been any special elections in truly competitive districts/states in 2019.

I'm not even going to address the cherry picking and spin in the above

Listing all special House elections in 2019 is pretty much the opposite of "cherry picking."
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« Reply #226 on: October 27, 2019, 07:34:57 PM »

The fact that the blue avatars celebrate because a smear campaign by an abusive husband against his ex-wife has succeeded makes me sick.


May I ask what basis there is to call this a "smear campaign"?

Because she's a woman and he's a man. Best to just move past this and get a better Democrat in there.

Given that the Democrats have been getting destroyed in competitive elections post 2018, it'll be interesting to see if they can keep this seat.

Where?  In NC-9 and PA-12 the Democrats outperformed Trump's numbers.   In NC-3 the Republicans more or less just held their ground (in a very rural, safe R seat).

There literally hasn't been any special elections in truly competitive districts/states in 2019.

I'm not even going to address the cherry picking and spin in the above, except to note that you're forgetting the Wisconsin state Supreme Court election, in which 1.2 million votes were cast; it was a statewide election in what is a likely tipping point state next year.

And Hagedorn won by 6k votes or 0.5%,  Trump won it by 0.77%.   
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« Reply #227 on: October 27, 2019, 07:40:09 PM »

The fact that the blue avatars celebrate because a smear campaign by an abusive husband against his ex-wife has succeeded makes me sick.


May I ask what basis there is to call this a "smear campaign"?

Because she's a woman and he's a man. Best to just move past this and get a better Democrat in there.

Given that the Democrats have been getting destroyed in competitive elections post 2018, it'll be interesting to see if they can keep this seat.

Where?  In NC-9 and PA-12 the Democrats outperformed Trump's numbers.   In NC-3 the Republicans more or less just held their ground (in a very rural, safe R seat).

There literally hasn't been any special elections in truly competitive districts/states in 2019.

I'm not even going to address the cherry picking and spin in the above, except to note that you're forgetting the Wisconsin state Supreme Court election, in which 1.2 million votes were cast; it was a statewide election in what is a likely tipping point state next year.

Losing a state supreme court race by decimal points is hardly getting destroyed. But keep on trolling.
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« Reply #228 on: October 27, 2019, 07:47:13 PM »

Tough luck, Katie. If you had a (R) next to your name, you'd immediately be considered a martyr and a rallying cry for Trump and the Republicans, who would deem the whole thing a witch hunt and an attempt by Democrats to steal a House seat. Democrats should hold this seat (Likely D at worst), but as others have said, Republicans clearly aren't the ones held to a higher standard.

I think Hill should have served out her term, not because "but Trump!" or that kind of whataboutism (Democrats should hold themselves to a high standard) but I don't believe that resignation was warranted here and this rewards a revenge porn campaign.
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« Reply #229 on: October 27, 2019, 07:51:40 PM »

Tough luck, Katie. If you had a (R) next to your name, you'd immediately be considered a martyr and a rallying cry for Trump and the Republicans, who would deem the whole thing a witch hunt and an attempt by Democrats to steal a House seat. Democrats should hold this seat (Likely D at worst), but as others have said, Republicans clearly aren't the ones held to a higher standard.

I think Hill should have served out her term, not because "but Trump!" or that kind of whataboutism (Democrats should hold themselves to a high standard) but I don't believe that resignation was warranted here and this rewards a revenge porn campaign.

She should've served out her goddamned term and run for reelection in 2020. The voters can then decide if they want her back.
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« Reply #230 on: October 27, 2019, 07:52:26 PM »

In the meanwhile, there is no evidence that Hill dated somebody from her congressional staff but everybody takes it as a given. I wonder why.
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« Reply #231 on: October 27, 2019, 07:58:43 PM »

and this rewards a revenge porn campaign.

This is the real story here. If this story had been broken via the aide going to a mainstream news outlet about Hill's treatment of her, I would have leaned towards supporting Hill's ouster; however, as it stands, Hill resigning legitimizes revenge porn as a means of "reporting" on political scandals, and anybody who thinks it'll affect male and female politicians equally is delusional.
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« Reply #232 on: October 27, 2019, 08:03:19 PM »

Where are all these Republicans on the impeachment thread?

Anyways, good riddance. Its unethical to have a relationship with your subordinates. And Calthrina, Conyers and Franken were both pushed out of the party after their allegations surfaced. Democrats do hold their own to a higher standard than Republicans.
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« Reply #233 on: October 27, 2019, 08:03:46 PM »

Jess Phoenix OUT:



Assemblywoman Christy Smith (D) is considering a run here:



She’s definitely a good fit here. Only wild card left is Bryan Caforio, but he could easily run for the Assembly seat she would be vacating.
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« Reply #234 on: October 27, 2019, 08:10:45 PM »

The fact that the blue avatars celebrate because a smear campaign by an abusive husband against his ex-wife has succeeded makes me sick.


May I ask what basis there is to call this a "smear campaign"?

Because she's a woman and he's a man. Best to just move past this and get a better Democrat in there.

Given that the Democrats have been getting destroyed in competitive elections post 2018, it'll be interesting to see if they can keep this seat.

Destroyed where?
IIRC Loretta sanchez in the region only got like 38% of the vote against 5 Republicand and still lost an Orange county supervisor seat. The other major California special sd 1 saw ds only get 30% of the vote in a trump +15 district. California specials so far have been bad for Democrats

The board of supervisors thing isn't surprising,  it's a non-partisan office for one thing, but more importantly Orange County still votes pretty Republican downballot.   There's only 1 Democrat on the 5 member board, and all the county-wide elected officials are still Republican too.

SD-1 is exactly the kind of district to trend to Republicans so that's not surprising either.
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« Reply #235 on: October 27, 2019, 08:14:33 PM »

The fact that the blue avatars celebrate because a smear campaign by an abusive husband against his ex-wife has succeeded makes me sick.


May I ask what basis there is to call this a "smear campaign"?

Because she's a woman and he's a man. Best to just move past this and get a better Democrat in there.

Given that the Democrats have been getting destroyed in competitive elections post 2018, it'll be interesting to see if they can keep this seat.

Destroyed where?
IIRC Loretta sanchez in the region only got like 38% of the vote against 5 Republicand and still lost an Orange county supervisor seat. The other major California special sd 1 saw ds only get 30% of the vote in a trump +15 district. California specials so far have been bad for Democrats
You are really stretching here.
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« Reply #236 on: October 27, 2019, 08:15:22 PM »

The fact that the blue avatars celebrate because a smear campaign by an abusive husband against his ex-wife has succeeded makes me sick.


May I ask what basis there is to call this a "smear campaign"?

Because she's a woman and he's a man. Best to just move past this and get a better Democrat in there.

Given that the Democrats have been getting destroyed in competitive elections post 2018, it'll be interesting to see if they can keep this seat.

Destroyed where?
IIRC Loretta sanchez in the region only got like 38% of the vote against 5 Republicand and still lost an Orange county supervisor seat. The other major California special sd 1 saw ds only get 30% of the vote in a trump +15 district. California specials so far have been bad for Democrats

1. This post was really hard to read

2. If there's one thing Southern California Democrats are terrible at, its voting in off-year elections (Turnout was 21% in March 2019 for the 3rd district vs 55% 5 months prior for the 4th district). I wouldn't be surprised if, had the 3rd district been on the November ballot, she'd have gotten north of 40%
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« Reply #237 on: October 27, 2019, 08:32:39 PM »

Does anyone know the date in which her resignation goes into effect?
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« Reply #238 on: October 27, 2019, 08:36:01 PM »

Get Duncan Hunter to resign next.
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« Reply #239 on: October 27, 2019, 08:42:18 PM »

this is despicable
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« Reply #240 on: October 27, 2019, 08:44:03 PM »

To be clear I think that Republicans and men should be held to the same standard.

All the GOP criminals and disgraces to congress and government, King/Hunter and the rest of the "best people" need to resign and prosecuted according to the nature of their crimes, of those who have committed them.
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« Reply #241 on: October 27, 2019, 08:44:15 PM »

Does anyone know the date in which her resignation goes into effect?

Wikipedia is already listing her as a former member of Congress.
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« Reply #242 on: October 27, 2019, 08:45:58 PM »

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« Reply #243 on: October 27, 2019, 09:02:07 PM »

Caforio would be the logical successor, but I understand that running a man here would be poor optics after the scandal.
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« Reply #244 on: October 27, 2019, 09:13:48 PM »


FTFY
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« Reply #245 on: October 27, 2019, 09:24:09 PM »

and this rewards a revenge porn campaign.

This is the real story here. If this story had been broken via the aide going to a mainstream news outlet about Hill's treatment of her, I would have leaned towards supporting Hill's ouster; however, as it stands, Hill resigning legitimizes revenge porn as a means of "reporting" on political scandals, and anybody who thinks it'll affect male and female politicians equally is delusional.

What evidence is there that these pics were private and then posted by her husband? IIRC, they were both posting these pics online (including on reddit) to solicit swinger hookups.

Regardless, the pics aren't even the scandal, just evidence toward the scandal of sleeping with subordinates. That she resigned and explicitly hinted toward further revelations in her statement implies truth to these and other unethical claims.
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« Reply #246 on: October 27, 2019, 09:25:30 PM »

CA SOS Alex Padilla is considering jumping in:

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« Reply #247 on: October 27, 2019, 09:26:00 PM »

CA SOS Alex Padilla is considering jumping in:


That would be an idiotic tier move
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« Reply #248 on: October 27, 2019, 09:28:00 PM »

Would a major state govt sacramento dem be a good fit here?

Californians hate their state govt. especially in recent months with the energy and gas issues.
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« Reply #249 on: October 27, 2019, 09:28:26 PM »

CA SOS Alex Padilla is considering jumping in:


That would be an idiotic tier move

Wouldn't be unprecedented. Garamendi went from Lt. Gov to Congress.
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