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Higgins
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« on: October 21, 2019, 08:12:09 PM »

Who has that power?
Asking because I think ours is boring as hell.

OOPS wrong section, sorry...move as needed please.
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2019, 08:44:53 PM »


The current national anthem was made official through legislation, so it would require Congress and the president.
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2019, 08:48:52 PM »


The current national anthem was made official through legislation, so it would require Congress and the president.

We need something a little more glorious, like a March of some sort.
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2019, 10:24:04 AM »


The current national anthem was made official through legislation, so it would require Congress and the president.

We need something a little more glorious, like a March of some sort.

I've always thought "America the Beautiful" would be a good anthem.
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2019, 04:46:20 PM »

I’d support anything with good lyrics to the catchy tune of “Dixie,” or the original “This Land Is Your Land.” You pick.
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2019, 08:18:47 PM »

I doubt it
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2019, 05:31:46 AM »

Trust me, you wouldn't want the god emperor to change the national anthem.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2019, 10:09:43 AM »

Trust me, you wouldn't want the god emperor to change the national anthem.

Oh, say can I see,
By the 3 A.M. light,
What so proudly I hailed,
At Executive Time's last gleaming?
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2019, 02:19:37 PM »

I’d support anything with good lyrics to the catchy tune of “Dixie,”

How about the Unionist Dixie?


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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2019, 03:56:40 PM »

I've suggested "For Want Of" by Rites of Spring before.

Sadly Trump would make it that terrible Lee Greenwood song.
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« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2019, 06:19:06 PM »

I’d support anything with good lyrics to the catchy tune of “Dixie,”

How about the Unionist Dixie?



Beat me to it.
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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2019, 03:43:16 PM »

I’d support anything with good lyrics to the catchy tune of “Dixie,”

How about the Unionist Dixie?



Great idea!

“Away down South... the land of traitors, rattlesnakes, and alligators”
“Each Dixie boy must understand that he must mind his Uncle Sam!”

Sectionalism forever, hurrah, boys, hurrah!
Down with the star, up with the states!
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2019, 05:33:09 PM »

I think the current anthem is safe for now. I think it'll be long after Trump before it gets changed.
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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2019, 01:55:51 PM »

Trump: Yes.

Other presidents: No.
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« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2020, 02:33:00 PM »

"The Battle Hymn of the Republic" is my choice:

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The Battle Hymn of the Republic - Julia Ward Howe

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;
His truth is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.

I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps;
They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;
I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps,
His day is marching on.

I have read His fiery gospel writ in rows of burnished steel!
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you My grace shall deal!
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,"
Since God is marching on.

He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment seat;
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him; be jubilant, my feet!
Our God is marching on.

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me;
As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free!
While God is marching on.

P. S.  I have never approved of changing the "die" in the next to the last line of the fifth verse, as some have.  Julia Ward Howe wrote this at a time where the Civil War was happening not far from Washington, DC, where she lived at the time she wrote this. 
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« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2020, 08:45:46 PM »

Anyway, now that everyone who wants to has had a chance to poke fun at Trump, the current anthem, or both, the answer is no. Our national anthem, national motto, and other similar things are codified into law in Chapter 3 of Title 36. The only thing Trump could change about our national symbols, if he wanted to, would be the arrangement of the 50 stars in the flag as that is specified by executive order.
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« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2020, 10:10:32 PM »

P. S.  I have never approved of changing the "die" in the next to the last line of the fifth verse, as some have.  Julia Ward Howe wrote this at a time where the Civil War was happening not far from Washington, DC, where she lived at the time she wrote this. 
Agreed —in my mind it undercuts the significance of the entire song, which reminds us that liberty requires sacrifice and our lives are lived "not for ourselves alone," the very themes that would make Battle Hymn an excellent national anthem.
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2020, 02:02:11 AM »

It should be changed to a Rites of Spring, Mineral or Cap'n Jazz song.
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2020, 03:27:49 AM »

Does John Dule have a graphic for BRTD posts as well as threads?
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