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« on: October 26, 2019, 03:20:16 PM »

Source: https://apnews.com/76de76e9870b45d38390cc40e25e8f03
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Only 29% of Americans say the government should pay cash reparations, according to the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll.

But the poll reveals a large divide between Americans of different racial and ethnic backgrounds.

Most black Americans, 74%, favor reparations, compared with 15% of white Americans. Among Hispanics, 44% favor reparations.
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Poll respondents also were sharply divided by race on whether the U.S. government should issue an apology for slavery: 64% of white Americans oppose a government apology, while 77% of black Americans and 64% of Hispanics believe an apology is due. Overall, 46% of Americans favor and 52% oppose a national apology.
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« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2019, 09:37:38 PM »


I oppose it because money is not the answer. At the root of the problem is a deep wound that needs healing. On all sides. No amount of money can do that. After the money is spent or saved or invested, what then? The deep wound will still be there, festering because it wasn't healed.

Let's start an honest conversation and go from there. Are people ready to do that? I believe that is how this needed healing will begin.
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2019, 12:12:51 AM »


What mean?
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2019, 12:18:46 AM »

Poll: Most Americans oppose something that practically nobody is proposing in the first place.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2019, 03:49:52 AM »
« Edited: October 28, 2019, 01:57:14 AM by TJ in Oregon »


Are you for reals? I mean, if all you've ever heard are the negative black sterotypes and have never met an African American, that might be one thing... but even still... you'd be a fool for believing them. And if you aren't that blissfully unaware... wow...

Like... most black folk aren't the vicious criminals white nationalists want everyone to think they be.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2019, 05:24:42 AM »

Warren's campaign was about reparations, medicare for all; as a result, a ballooning 22T deficit. Blacks and Latinos need support programs that will give them a level playing field, such as more section 8 vouchers and student loan forgiveness. As a result, Millionaire tax can be passed by Biden or Warren
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2019, 01:30:34 PM »

Poll: Most Americans oppose something that practically nobody is proposing in the first place.

What do you mean no one is practically proposing.

Don't play games.

Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee said she wants a reparations package.

If Democrats get a trifecta in 2021, it is possible.

https://jacksonlee.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congresswoman-sheila-jackson-lee-introduces-legislation-for-a-commission
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2019, 02:20:59 PM »

Poll: Most Americans oppose something that practically nobody is proposing in the first place.

Uh, several major Dem presidential contenders support them in some form.
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2019, 02:28:03 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2019, 01:57:32 AM by TJ in Oregon »


How do you keep getting away with writing this stuff on atlas?
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2019, 02:36:45 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2019, 01:57:45 AM by TJ in Oregon »


Don’t know what you mean ...

What is wrong with my statement ?
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2019, 03:04:15 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2019, 01:58:01 AM by TJ in Oregon »


Don’t know what you mean ...

What is wrong with my statement ?

So you're just going to pretend that what you said about an entire group of people using money for horrible reasons despite the fact that most of them literally don't do the things that you listed isn't wrong?
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« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2019, 05:56:52 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2019, 01:58:53 AM by TJ in Oregon »



If fuzzy bear said this, you guys would have him banned
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« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2019, 06:10:33 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2019, 01:59:07 AM by TJ in Oregon »


Can we quarantine vexing Fuzzy's immense persecution complex to the internal discussion board please? Absolutely no need to bring this cancer onto another already ailing area of the forum.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2019, 07:46:30 PM »

Poll: Most Americans oppose something that practically nobody is proposing in the first place.

What do you mean no one is practically proposing.

Don't play games.

Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee said she wants a reparations package.

If Democrats get a trifecta in 2021, it is possible.

https://jacksonlee.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congresswoman-sheila-jackson-lee-introduces-legislation-for-a-commission

Congratulations for proving my point by finding exactly one person who is proposing cash payouts. A

Poll: Most Americans oppose something that practically nobody is proposing in the first place.

Uh, several major Dem presidential contenders support them in some form.

Most are through infrastructure--the poll specifically covered cash payouts to individuals, which again almost nobody is proposing.
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2019, 07:50:05 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2019, 01:59:28 AM by TJ in Oregon »

You want to murder 90% of the planet's population
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« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2019, 07:51:30 PM »

Yeah, cash payouts are extremely stupid. At what point does someone qualify as an "African descendant of slavery?" When they're 1/4th black? 1/8th? Or do the Democrats plan to start going by the one-drop rule again? Then of course there's the question of how to give reparations to African immigrants who may not be descendants of slavery, yet who might've been affected by Jim Crow, etc. It's an obscenely bad idea. I think the plan to put that money into predominately black schools is much more feasible, and it wouldn't result in creepy racial testing to see if anyone qualifies.
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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2019, 08:27:23 PM »

Yeah, cash payouts are extremely stupid. At what point does someone qualify as an "African descendant of slavery?" When they're 1/4th black? 1/8th? Or do the Democrats plan to start going by the one-drop rule again? Then of course there's the question of how to give reparations to African immigrants who may not be descendants of slavery, yet who might've been affected by Jim Crow, etc. It's an obscenely bad idea. I think the plan to put that money into predominately black schools is much more feasible, and it wouldn't result in creepy racial testing to see if anyone qualifies.

TBF, candidates aren't endorsing reparations per se, but instead are endorsing creating a congressional committee to answer the questions you are asking.

I find it unlikely they would reach any sort of meaningful or satisfying answer to any of these questions, but I think the real purpose of the committee is to use congressional authorities to investigate high-profile research into economic consequences of slavery and its aftermath. It's a rather ambitious (and politically toxic) project but nobody is advocating that we enact reparations in 2021.
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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2019, 09:11:43 PM »

Yeah, cash payouts are extremely stupid. At what point does someone qualify as an "African descendant of slavery?" When they're 1/4th black? 1/8th? Or do the Democrats plan to start going by the one-drop rule again? Then of course there's the question of how to give reparations to African immigrants who may not be descendants of slavery, yet who might've been affected by Jim Crow, etc. It's an obscenely bad idea. I think the plan to put that money into predominately black schools is much more feasible, and it wouldn't result in creepy racial testing to see if anyone qualifies.

TBF, candidates aren't endorsing reparations per se, but instead are endorsing creating a congressional committee to answer the questions you are asking.

I find it unlikely they would reach any sort of meaningful or satisfying answer to any of these questions, but I think the real purpose of the committee is to use congressional authorities to investigate high-profile research into economic consequences of slavery and its aftermath. It's a rather ambitious (and politically toxic) project but nobody is advocating that we enact reparations in 2021.

That's true for the candidates. This poll, however, was explicitly about cash reparations (I think). And I'm saying that it makes total sense that Americans are against that. As for the committee... I'm for it in principle, I suppose. I just don't have any faith in the bureaucracy to correctly assess the situation or act properly in response, especially after the Moynihan Report.
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2019, 08:20:38 AM »


I believe that everyone has been affected in negative ways down through time by that ignorant and shameful period in our history. The wrongs perpetrated against blacks back then is embedded in our national consciousness, in our psychology, and still affects us today. A national healing needs to take place, as well as individual healing before we can move forward.
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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2019, 08:50:31 AM »

How does a one time cash payment help future generations or level the playing field? The same issues facing the African American community will continue to exist long after that check is cashed. Long term investments and structural changes need to be implemented. Cash reparations accomplish nothing except as a way for candidates to pander for votes.
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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2019, 11:00:50 AM »

How does a one time cash payment help future generations or level the playing field? The same issues facing the African American community will continue to exist long after that check is cashed. Long term investments and structural changes need to be implemented. Cash reparations accomplish nothing except as a way for candidates to pander for votes.
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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2019, 12:06:01 PM »

How does a one time cash payment help future generations or level the playing field? The same issues facing the African American community will continue to exist long after that check is cashed. Long term investments and structural changes need to be implemented. Cash reparations accomplish nothing except as a way for candidates to pander for votes.
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