No WMD in Iraq

[jravnsbo]

still looking and jury is still out.  If WMDs are found, game over for election though.

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Not saying it did either, but what would you say would justify the war?  That is the dem chief argument nowadays.

Plus it would just take it off the table like Saddam and would be big PR wise.

Plenty of countries have WMD. Look at Libya. That doesnt justify invasion.

[jravnsbo]

Well the Iraq war still is very popular among the people and WMDs while not needed would still be a boost.  That is what I was trying to convey, just like getting OBL- I think if either one happens it will almost be game over.

Well Iraq was sponsering terrorism and not complying with the resolutions it agreed to comply with to end the first gulf war.  So one could argue strongly that the war was justified on those grounds alone, among many others.

Not saying it did either, but what would you say would justify the war?

Nothing justifies the invasion of another sovereign country except for special humanitarian concerns. I dont think Bush went to war for humanitarian concerns no matter how they try to spin it now. He didn't care about the Iraqi people and still doesnt insofar as it doesnt affect his imperial designs.

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That is true, but it really shouldn't given that the administration already admitted months ago that WMD may never be found, and that they don't really care.

[jravnsbo]

Fred Barnes said last night Bush made a speech before the war about bringing democracy to the region.  That was a justification before the war.

Personally, I think that the justification now given for the invasion, the establishment of a democratic state that would serve as a political alternative to religious tyranny in the Arab world, was the plan all along - this is what Bush really meant by a policy of "regime change".

However, because unilateralism was too politically unpopular here at home, the WMD argument had to be exaggerated.

The truth is, this deception only matters to the 20-30% of the population for whom throwing out the Republicans is a bigger priority than forming a realistic post 9/11 foreign policy.

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attn EUROPEANS:

last night some belgium paper said they had reports and were writing a story ina  newspaper there that the WMDS had been sent out of Iraq and are being stored in Syria, heard anything about this?

[jravnsbo]

worth a shot, since we have 4-5 people in here from Europe.

attn EUROPEANS:

last night some belgium paper said they had reports and were writing a story ina  newspaper there that the WMDS had been sent out of Iraq and are being stored in Syria, heard anything about this?

Europe is not really a unit. I know as much about Belgian papers as I know about Syrian ones, that is to say, nothing. Sorry.  

[jravnsbo]

Well even if they are not a huge cache of WMDs found by the Danes, it is still good they were found and removed.  Even if they are old they need to be destroyed instead of falling into the wrong hands.  Positive find.

[jravnsbo]

Beware the Danes are coming! Gustaf, wait until they invade ya

[jravnsbo]

yes this is what I heard the other day.  What is the source for this, do you have a link to it?