5 best Democratic Presidents

[TDAS04]

FDR, Truman, LBJ, Carter, Obama

[OSR stands with Israel]

Using the CSPAN Rubric to rank them:

1. FDR
2. Truman
3. Clinton
4. Polk
5.  Wilson

[Lechasseur]

Polk, FDR, Truman, Kennedy, Clinton

[Kingpoleon]

Van Buren, Kennedy, Truman, Clinton, and Cleveland. Kind of difficult!

[HillGoose]

there isn't even 5 lmao the only even decent one is Obama.

[Mr. Smith]

FDR, Truman, LBJ, Jackson, Wilson.

[SWE]

1. FDR
2. Carter
3. Cleveland
4. MVB
5. Obama

Very yikes worthy

[Dr. MB]

1. LBJ
2. FDR
3. Truman
4. Carter
5. Obama

[RaphaelDLG]

FDR is the obvious number one.  The other four are pretty hard.  LBJ and Truman as legends with enormous mass murderer asterisks, Obama and Wilson as solidly progressive for their time but legislatively ineffective intellectuals with blind spots (Wilson on race, Obama on big corporations / drones)?

[😥]

1. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
2. Lyndon Boris Johnson
3. Harry Truman
4. Bill Clinton
5 (tie). Woodrow Wilson
5 (tie). Barack Obama

[Kingpoleon]

FDR is the obvious number one.  The other four are pretty hard.  LBJ and Truman as legends with enormous mass murderer asterisks, Obama and Wilson as solidly progressive for their time but legislatively ineffective intellectuals with blind spots (Wilson on race, Obama on big corporations / drones)?

I mean, Wilson’s peace deal also caused World War 2, so I wouldn’t put him too high.

[Theodore]

Jackson, Polk, Pierce, Cleveland, Carter

[brucejoel99]

1. FDR
2. Truman
3. LBJ
4. Obama
5. Wilson

[RaphaelDLG]

FDR is the obvious number one.  The other four are pretty hard.  LBJ and Truman as legends with enormous mass murderer asterisks, Obama and Wilson as solidly progressive for their time but legislatively ineffective intellectuals with blind spots (Wilson on race, Obama on big corporations / drones)?

I mean, Wilson’s peace deal also caused World War 2, so I wouldn’t put him too high.

He didn't advocate for the punitive stuff in the deal that stoked totalitarianism, that was France/Italy/Britain, the three other countries that also had a huge say in what got in there.

Also, we didn't actually sign that deal!  If Wilson was less stubborn, maybe it would have passed in the US, but ultimately the Republicans were the ones who didn't ratify it and went with their own much more isolationist but equally as harsh one.

Because of largely Republican-led isolationism, we did not join the league of nations and withdrew from the world stage until it was far too late.  You might say that the league of nations failed anyway, but it would have been WAY more formidable with the largest economy in the world as a key member.

[Kingpoleon]

RaphaelDLG, he absolutely supported the war reparations, as well as the European transfer of land. It’s dishonest to portray him as some sort of advocate of realpolitik who understood the danger of a disproportionately weakened Germany without a Kaiser.

[Santander]

FDR, Truman, LBJ, Jackson, Wilson.

This is the correct list. I might swap Cleveland for LBJ.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

1. FDR
2. Truman
3. LBJ
4. Obama




5. Wilson

[Orser67]

RaphaelDLG, he absolutely supported the war reparations, as well as the European transfer of land. It’s dishonest to portray him as some sort of advocate of realpolitik who understood the danger of a disproportionately weakened Germany without a Kaiser.

Nope. The main foreign policy goal of Wilson's second term was to establish a lasting peace, and a major part of that was the avoidance of a punitive treaty. But he couldn't single-handedly dictate the terms of the Versailles Treaty, and France and other Allied Powers demanded onerous reparations.

Lack of preliminary agreement in 1918 resulted in a struggle over reparations among the Allies at Versailles that weakened their accord and contributed in later years to the conditions that brought on the world depression and led to World War II. President Wilson had sought in his pre-armistice addresses to win the adherence of Great Britain, France and Italy to the traditional American policy of “no contributions, no punitive indemnities,”2 but he was compelled during the Peace Conference to agree to the imposition of reparations which approached total war costs of the principal European Allies. No claim for reparations was made on behalf of the United States.

[Orser67]

1. FDR
2. Truman
3. LBJ
4. Obama




5. Wilson

This, but flip LBJ and Obama.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

FDR, Truman, JFK, LBJ and Obama.

[GovBillWeld]

Clinton is the only at least decent one on there, maybe Carter too.

[America Needs R'hllor]

1. FDR
2. Truman
3. Obama
4. LBJ
5. Wilson

[Sam Smith]

1.Grover Cleveland
2.Martin van Buren
3.Andrew Jackson
4.Jimmy Carter
5.Franklin Pierce

[Kingpoleon]

Nope. The main foreign policy goal of Wilson's second term was to establish a lasting peace, and a major part of that was the avoidance of a punitive treaty. But he couldn't single-handedly dictate the terms of the Versailles Treaty, and France and other Allied Powers demanded onerous reparations.

Lack of preliminary agreement in 1918 resulted in a struggle over reparations among the Allies at Versailles that weakened their accord and contributed in later years to the conditions that brought on the world depression and led to World War II. President Wilson had sought in his pre-armistice addresses to win the adherence of Great Britain, France and Italy to the traditional American policy of “no contributions, no punitive indemnities,”2 but he was compelled during the Peace Conference to agree to the imposition of reparations which approached total war costs of the principal European Allies. No claim for reparations was made on behalf of the United States.

Being “forced” into supporting the most disastrous peace treaty in history means nothing. Instead of round rejection of the harsh indemnities and land transactions, Wilson remained quiet and so supported them.

[Orser67]

Nope. The main foreign policy goal of Wilson's second term was to establish a lasting peace, and a major part of that was the avoidance of a punitive treaty. But he couldn't single-handedly dictate the terms of the Versailles Treaty, and France and other Allied Powers demanded onerous reparations.

Lack of preliminary agreement in 1918 resulted in a struggle over reparations among the Allies at Versailles that weakened their accord and contributed in later years to the conditions that brought on the world depression and led to World War II. President Wilson had sought in his pre-armistice addresses to win the adherence of Great Britain, France and Italy to the traditional American policy of “no contributions, no punitive indemnities,”2 but he was compelled during the Peace Conference to agree to the imposition of reparations which approached total war costs of the principal European Allies. No claim for reparations was made on behalf of the United States.

Being “forced” into supporting the most disastrous peace treaty in history means nothing. Instead of round rejection of the harsh indemnities and land transactions, Wilson remained quiet and so supported them.

Wilson couldn't have imposed his will on the other Allied powers on every single topic. It's as simple as that. His only other option would be to simply leave the conference and let the Allies reach a treaty without the United States, which would have almost certainly imposed even harsher terms.