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« on: October 29, 2019, 03:44:10 pm »
« edited: October 29, 2019, 03:49:08 pm by Ishan »

As I'm tired of the Brexit drama, I hope BoJo wins a mandate to get it done finally, even though I would vote for the Liberal Democrats. And hopefully Labor loses big, so that Corbyn is finally gone and they could (at least in theory) return to Blairism.


Blairism isn't in the Labour party anymore, the Lib Dems has inherited Blairism.
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2019, 11:00:27 am »


Further proof that UKIP are a zombie party. Similarly, the Sinners had November leadership challenge that now would coincide with the campaign period, so it may get shelved.  
I wonder when UKIP will dissolve.
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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2019, 10:03:27 am »



Bu-bu-but I thought Labour was a Remain party! It's all a fake news media conspiracy to suggest they might in fact support Brexit! YOU'RE MAKING BREXIT MORE LIKELY BY NOT VOTING LABOUR!

(And no prizes for guessing whether this is going to be reported on. Better clear news space for the next time Jo Swinson forgets to say bless you after someone sneezes I suppose)

Labour will have another referendum with a remain option within months, if it wins.

Almost certainly, people in the party will be allowed to campaign for either side (as with Wilson in '75) This may not satisfy Remainiac purists, but might actually go down OK with many voters.


If they campaign on Leave, the Lib Dems will make sure that the people will never forget that.
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2019, 08:18:19 am »

What a boring election.

But basically everyone has no one to blame but themselves

Labour for not ditching Corbyn

LibDems for a ridiculous policy of defying the will of the people regardless of what they might say in a second referendum

Brexit - for not fighting the Tories nationwide. If they did I think they could actually win a handful of seats. But not fighting a full campaign has definitely discouraged voters and Farage not running was a putrid mistake because most Brexit party voters look up to him a lot and would be more motivated to vote for them knowing they’d be led by Farage in parliament.

Yawn
Labour isn't New Labour anymore.
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2019, 09:32:55 am »

What a boring election.

But basically everyone has no one to blame but themselves

Labour for not ditching Corbyn

LibDems for a ridiculous policy of defying the will of the people regardless of what they might say in a second referendum

Brexit - for not fighting the Tories nationwide. If they did I think they could actually win a handful of seats. But not fighting a full campaign has definitely discouraged voters and Farage not running was a putrid mistake because most Brexit party voters look up to him a lot and would be more motivated to vote for them knowing they’d be led by Farage in parliament.

Yawn

Yawn this shows you don’t know a lot about British politics.
If Labour ran on a pro-Brexit campaign, they would lose tons of seats and the Lib Dems would definitely have 60 something seats.
The Lib Dems are a Pro-EU party.
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« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2019, 07:33:19 pm »

tonight's debate may have some bearing on that (I'm not one of those who thinks they can never change anything - and tbh am surprised at those who do, given Cleggmania wasn't *that* long ago)

Cleggmania didn't change anything though. It gave Clegg a momentary blip but the overall effect on the election was actually fairly minimal. And that's when he was the clear winner over Brown and Cameron, whereas both Johnson and Corbyn are so bad at debating I'm not sure there can be a clear winner. And even if there is a decisive winner, there's still three weeks until the election, plenty of time for other shiny things to make people forget the debate even happened.

I am surprised Theresa May is running again.  Last few PMs seems to have retired from politics after they left the PM spot.

As I said in my predictions, her becoming the female Ted Heath would be such a perfect end to her story.
Why did Clegg do worse than Kennedy in seats?
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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2019, 07:30:27 pm »

How do they generate the constituency polls anyway? Landline calls, then weight them for age?

You'd think, but some of the earlier ones (at least: can't comment on the more recent ones) were actually only weighted by... um... Euro Election vote? Bizarre stuff.
Had that been the case in 2015, Farage would have had a lot of seats.
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2019, 11:11:46 am »

Swinson is being attacked by everyone, and people have been saying sexist remarks about her, I think Clegg accepting being Deputy Leader was the worst thing to happen to the Lib Dems, because of the conservatives being conservatives and the Lib Dems voting for the measures.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2019, 06:51:50 am »

Swinson is as charismatic as my mom.
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2019, 12:02:45 pm »

Yes, if you wish to open a discussion on Corbyns 'leaks' (I mean they were just sitting on Reddit) it's the perfect topic for the international discussion board. We're here to discuss their impact electorally. We'll have to just wait and see for the long term impact, but the fact the documents were provided to the press as well may lead to "Corbyn said this but it actually says that." Corbyn after all has an interest in making this potential gun smoke as much as possible.
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My original post on the NHS WAS MERELY TO SAY Corbyn is crazy, if he states as campaign issue that Trump wants to buy the NHs.  There is no such paperwork. It is still crazy no matter how it is explained. Do you want a crazy man running your government.
The Conservatives want to fund the NHS and I'm pretty sure that even Farage doesn't support privatizing it.
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« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2019, 07:00:08 am »

Swinson is as charismatic as my mom.

That's a horrible thing to say about the person who gave you life.
I mean by the fact that my mom is horrible at public speaking, and all that, I love my mom to death.
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2019, 09:02:25 pm »

Which members of Change UK still on the sinking ship will survive, Soubry, Gapes, or Leslie or None of them?
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2019, 04:30:58 pm »

How come most seats in the UK are projected in the early morning?
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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2019, 08:08:17 am »

How can you hide in a fridge, I tried when I was a 5 year old and failed.
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