Pro-lifers: should "good" vampires get abortions?

[T'Chenka]

Watching the Twilight movies this week. If vampires have souls and mean well, should they have their child and hope to be able to raise it to be well-meaning (drinking animal blood instead of human)? Or should they abort it? A child could rebel against the parent and go on a human blood binge / rampage. By kiling the fetus, there is some chance you are saving lives.

Would your opinion change if they didn't have souls due to beimg vampires, but were obviously still intelligent emotional sentient beings?

What if (somehow) the baby was half-vampire, and yoi as a mere human cannot determine if it has a soul or not?

[afleitch]

What? No.

At least use plausible situationals, like should a trans man who has been raped and had not only his body but his identity violated and undermined be forced to carry to term. Or, if you make exceptions for 'life and health of the mother' does that include treating mental health as equal to physical health and if not, why not?

Not vampires.

[RI]

You don't punish people for hypothetical future crimes. This isn't Minority Report.

[T'Chenka]

What? No.

At least use plausible situationals, like should a trans man who has been raped and had not only his body but his identity violated and undermined be forced to carry to term. Or, if you make exceptions for 'life and health of the mother' does that include treating mental health as equal to physical health and if not, why not?

Not vampires.

Philosophy does not always use plausible situations, nor does it need to. The situation and your "res/no" answer isn't the important part, it's WHY you answer the way you do and the reasoning for that. Trans men don't have a very strong physical desire to literally feed on human beings, so the baby being born (or not being born) here is a threat to human LIFE, which some schools of thought would be a factor if the ideology is called "pro LIFE".

[T'Chenka]

You don't punish people for hypothetical future crimes. This isn't Minority Report.

What about sentient non-people with a STRONG biological drive to murder humans? What if they can't get into heaven anyways, so you aren't denying them that by aborting them?

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

You don't punish people for hypothetical future crimes. This isn't Minority Report.

What about sentient non-people with a STRONG biological drive to murder humans? What if they can't get into heaven anyways, so you aren't denying them that by aborting them?

How would anybody, even a vampire, gain enough information about vampires' inner lives to conclusively determine that they're "sentient non-people"?

[DC Al Fine]

What's your (presumably pro-choice?) answer to this hypothetical Tchenka? What are you trying to learn by asking pro-lifers specifically?

[T'Chenka]

What's your (presumably pro-choice?) answer to this hypothetical Tchenka? What are you trying to learn by asking pro-lifers specifically?

I'm interested in getting to the root of pro-lifer morality schools of thought, other than the biblical hardliners. Is the bottom line that it's wrong to kill a sentient baby? Is the most important part the implications on the baby's soul or lack of soul, and not the death of the living being itself? Are there people here that would argue only human abortion is immoral but cat/dog/vampire abortion isn't wrong?

I want to see people's answers, but moreso I want to get to the bottom of what the most important factors in coming to those conclusions are. If this thread doesn't do well, I might come back to this in a new thread with a more general approach in a month or two.

[John Dule]

this is it. the single most cursed thread i have ever seen. damn you for making me read this.