Evolution or Intelligent Design

[RINO Tom]

There are plenty of reputable scientists who believe in a first cause "Creator" of sorts, which can practically be called God ... but I have never heard a good argument for "Intelligent Design."  Most scientists who believe in a God reject Intelligent Design, mostly because it's simply overkill ... you can accept evolution in full and very easily reconcile it with a belief in a higher power without bending science to fit a pro-religion narrative.

[RINO Tom]

Anyone who draws lines between “real” theists and “fake” ones, whether they’re neck-beard, hot-take atheists or absolutist fundies, immediately lose my respect in regard to this conversation.

[RINO Tom]

I don't know what's worse, the people who just flat-out refuse to accept the evidence for evolution, or the people who go through some tortured logic to say that the Bible doesn't preclude the possibility of natural selection.

If nothing else, I think this thread has answered this question for me.

Not that there are both types present, despite what you might imagine.