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« Reply #125 on: November 08, 2019, 11:10:37 PM »

Would be better if Bloomberg, Steyrer and Biden all drop out, let other more competent people do the job and donate 100 Mio. $ to the DNC for a 50-state GE campaign ...
Their egos couldn't handle it
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« Reply #126 on: November 08, 2019, 11:12:31 PM »

Would be better if Bloomberg, Steyrer and Biden all drop out, let other more competent people do the job and donate 100 Mio. $ to the DNC for a 50-state GE campaign ...

Better for defeating Donald Trump, for the Democratic party, and for the United States? Absolutely.

Better for their egos, and the hyper-wealthy 0.0001% of the human race? Not at all.
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« Reply #127 on: November 08, 2019, 11:17:14 PM »

I’m pretty sure Democratic voters have virtually zero appetite for electing an old billionaire as their candidate.

The direction is clearly moving in favour of the more leftist wing of the party (Warren/Sanders), who are now benefitting even more from Bloomberg’s run, and a centrist wing dominated by Biden, Pete and Klobuchar.

Steyer and Bloomberg are doomed from the start.
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« Reply #128 on: November 08, 2019, 11:29:49 PM »
« Edited: November 08, 2019, 11:34:41 PM by MAGugh »

https://bloomberg2020.org

The website is allegedly registered to a notable NYC lawyer with an anti-Trump reputation, but, the logo is becoming a meme on Twitter more than anything. The whole feel seems pretty unfinished and unprofessional.
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« Reply #129 on: November 08, 2019, 11:46:35 PM »

No archives available of it so it does seem new.
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« Reply #130 on: November 08, 2019, 11:50:48 PM »

Yeah, this website definitely cost less than the annual fee for a single Bloomberg terminal. Maybe not even the monthly fee.
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« Reply #131 on: November 09, 2019, 02:35:56 AM »


The bloomer is not gonna steal any boomer votes from Yang at least. Smiley
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« Reply #132 on: November 09, 2019, 03:35:18 AM »
« Edited: November 09, 2019, 07:58:46 AM by Skye »

EDIT: So, the logo was fake, so I'm deleting it:

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« Reply #133 on: November 09, 2019, 05:12:53 AM »

I like Mike, he's a successful businessman and a pragmatic politician who is more interested in solving actual problems and not an ideologue hack. His commitments to gun safety and climate change are remarkable. But I hope his campaign will go nowhere. Sorry, but he isn't the one best suited to take on Trump, putting aside the fact he has zero chance in the primary. Anyone who doesn't like to go to far left needs to support Joe Biden in the primary and Democrats must pick the one who, poll after poll has shown, can beat Trump and beat him badly. And this person is Joe Biden, who is also the best prepared candidate to govern afterwards and deliver results.
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« Reply #134 on: November 09, 2019, 08:10:05 AM »

That is exactly the same mistake that cost Rudy Giuliani the Republican nomination in 2008. He skipped all the early contests and focused, mostly, if not only on the Florida primary that he lost to McCain anyway.
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« Reply #135 on: November 09, 2019, 08:13:26 AM »

Sounds like a bad move.

Then again, his campaign probably can't make any good moves.
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« Reply #136 on: November 09, 2019, 08:30:35 AM »

The first 4 contests are for a relatively small amount of delegates.  The difference between Giuliani and Bloomberg is that Giuliani was an early entry into the race, whereas Bloomberg is a strategic late entry.

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« Reply #137 on: November 09, 2019, 08:39:33 AM »

The first 4 contests are for a relatively small amount of delegates.  The difference between Giuliani and Bloomberg is that Giuliani was an early entry into the race, whereas Bloomberg is a strategic late entry.

Obviously, but they usually create such a momentum in the media for a candidate, which usually cannot be blunted anymore by a late entry ...
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« Reply #138 on: November 09, 2019, 09:00:06 AM »


The bloomer is not gonna steal any boomer votes from Yang at least. Smiley

Yes, yes, everything is about Yang. Thank you for reminding us.
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« Reply #139 on: November 09, 2019, 09:10:33 AM »

Can someone remind me what happened to another former New York City Mayor who tried a similar strategy?

Republican turned Democrat John Lindsay did poorly in later primaries after not being on the NH ballot.

Lindsay, Giuliani, DeBlasio, Bloomberg ..

We need a total and complete shutdown of NYC mayors running for President until we can figure out what's going on.
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« Reply #140 on: November 09, 2019, 11:44:12 AM »

Strong endorsements of Bloomberg from Rahm Emanuel at Politico, and Bret Stephens at the NYT.

Both make me feel like they're pitching the same arguments Republicans used (and still use) to justify their support for Donald Trump, only with the Republican scratched out and "Democrat" scribbled in in its place. I think Stephens sums it up best, when he says,
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The Democratic base will not sit out the election and squander its chances to oust Trump just because Bloomberg’s wealth offends them or because they won’t vote for a candidate who doesn’t embrace the Green New Deal.

I will be proud to reject both old white Republican New York billionaires on any ballot.


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« Reply #141 on: November 09, 2019, 11:54:13 AM »

The first 4 contests are for a relatively small amount of delegates.  The difference between Giuliani and Bloomberg is that Giuliani was an early entry into the race, whereas Bloomberg is a strategic late entry.

Obviously, but they usually create such a momentum in the media for a candidate, which usually cannot be blunted anymore by a late entry ...

Bloomberg is the ninth wealthiest person on the planet (Net worth: $55,500,000,000). He shouldn't have any difficulties generating media buzz.
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« Reply #142 on: November 09, 2019, 11:57:56 AM »

He should skip all of them and, if he wants to defeat Donald Trump, endorse the candidacy of the most electable and qualified person in the race, which is obviously a former vice president.
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« Reply #143 on: November 09, 2019, 11:59:16 AM »

Bloomberg gonna bet it all on Alabama.  Makes sense.
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« Reply #144 on: November 09, 2019, 12:02:47 PM »

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« Reply #145 on: November 09, 2019, 12:58:35 PM »

Interesting strategy. Will it work? Doubtful. Other candidates will have all of the momentum by Super Tuesday, and by then, Bloomberg will probably be an afterthought.
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« Reply #146 on: November 09, 2019, 02:22:35 PM »

Honestly I wonder what he's hoping to accomplish. He's not stupid not to realize chances of him becoming the nominee, especially at this stage, are pretty much nonexistent. Even if Biden were to magically drop out it won't result in his voters just flocking to Bloomberg. His appeal is very limited.

Instead of playing an important role in financing campaigns he's ending his career on a joke note.
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« Reply #147 on: November 09, 2019, 02:29:52 PM »

Honestly I wonder what he's hoping to accomplish. He's not stupid not to realize chances of him becoming the nominee, especially at this stage, are pretty much nonexistent. Even if Biden were to magically drop out it won't result in his voters just flocking to Bloomberg. His appeal is very limited.

Instead of playing an important role in financing campaigns he's ending his career on a joke note.

500th-dimensional shogi to help Biden, wherein Bloomberg runs so that Biden is contrasted with a billionaire who's hated by progressives, thereby making him more appealing to said progressives.
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« Reply #148 on: November 09, 2019, 02:58:51 PM »

Strong endorsements of Bloomberg from Rahm Emanuel at Politico, and Bret Stephens at the NYT.

Both make me feel like they're pitching the same arguments Republicans used (and still use) to justify their support for Donald Trump, only with the Republican scratched out and "Democrat" scribbled in in its place. I think Stephens sums it up best, when he says,
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The Democratic base will not sit out the election and squander its chances to oust Trump just because Bloomberg’s wealth offends them or because they won’t vote for a candidate who doesn’t embrace the Green New Deal.

I will be proud to reject both old white Republican New York billionaires on any ballot.



that Rahm piece can just as easily if not more so be read as an endorsement of Biden.
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« Reply #149 on: November 09, 2019, 03:03:26 PM »

Honestly I wonder what he's hoping to accomplish. He's not stupid not to realize chances of him becoming the nominee, especially at this stage, are pretty much nonexistent. Even if Biden were to magically drop out it won't result in his voters just flocking to Bloomberg. His appeal is very limited.

Instead of playing an important role in financing campaigns he's ending his career on a joke note.

500th-dimensional shogi to help Biden, wherein Bloomberg runs so that Biden is contrasted with a billionaire who's hated by progressives, thereby making him more appealing to said progressives.

I firmly believe that Bloomberg has been approached by key elements of the Democratic Party who are extremely concerned about the quality of their field.  The most electable candidates can't catch fire in the polls.  The leaders all have massive flaws, as do the candidates just below the leaders.  The Democrats should be favored to beat Trump, but they're being perceived as blowing it, and no one on the Democratic side wants to be responsible for blowing it.

Bloomberg is a guy with both political and business gravitas.  He was a RINO who always was a social liberal who was a Democrat, then a Republican, then an Independent running on the Republican line, and then a Democrat again.  He's not supported the GOP national ticket in eons, and he supported Obama in 2012 and Hillary in 2016.  His achievements are formidable, and no one will accuse him of being an empty suit.  He's ready to be President on day one, and no one really doubts that.

I have said this before:  The Democratic field is unimpressive.  The Democratic interest groups that are the real stakeholders in the party see the 2020 election slipping away from them.  They need to be proactive and airlift a candidate with gravitas into the process.  There are few available.  Hillary Clinton isn't wanted and Al Gore is likely unavailable.  Joe Biden is collapsing, and people know this.  People also don't want to find out everything about Hunter Biden and Burisma; it may be a nothingburger, but it may not be, and what then?  Bloomberg is a fix to all this; he's Tom Steyer with political chops.  He's John Delaney with more business chops.  He's 77 years old, but he's sharper than Biden and healthier than Sanders.  And, as an added bonus, he'll be the first Jewish President in history, bringing forth a positive "first" buzz.  If the Democrats had to airlift a candidate into the race, Bloomberg is one of the best they could come up with.  
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