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« on: November 13, 2019, 02:55:33 am »


In 2009 when Rep Joe Wilson yelled at Obama "You lie!" during a joint session of congress, that was a pivotal moment when respect in politics started a sharp decline, in my view.

Today, look what we have going on now. It's messy, and it's ugly. There is little cooperation between members of the parties and lots of ill will.

What happened to respect for one another? And how are we going to get it back? I mean, you can disagree with your co-workers but still be respectful towards them.

What's it going to take to put a semblance of decency back into our government?

I think more than this impeachment thing going on, the disintegration of respect for one another is the worst thing that can happen and that has happened to our country. And it's a shame because when you don't have respect for others, you have nothing worth having.
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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2019, 05:32:30 am »

Respect is for beta cucks. (Insert opposite political party) are animals and you're a soy boy for having empathy for them.
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« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2019, 08:08:44 pm »

Fox News, other right wing "news" sources, the internet, and the ascent of the culture wars all happened; among others things, and they led to President Trump.
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2019, 09:12:26 pm »

People seem to find it much more entertaining to be an asshole and say that anyone who disagrees with them is a moron than to try and empathize with those who disagree.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2019, 10:34:09 pm »

Respect dissolved in 2016 after it voluntarily deregistered from the UK Electoral Commission
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2019, 01:38:48 am »

There was never respect in politics. Have we already forgotten the 90s? Or the fact that a hundred years ago it wasn't uncommon for lawmakers to physically attack each other during sessions of congress?
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« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2019, 09:02:33 am »

Respect is an overblown idea in politics, I don't think its particularly honest or genuine to pretend to respect people whom you consider evil and immoral. I think politics is better when everyone is upfront and states what their ideas and challenges the other side, voters at least than get a clear sense about what a particular politician or party stands for.
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« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2019, 09:11:49 am »

respect still exists lmao you just have 2 stop listening to the lamestream media lies and sensationalism

the world is great right now
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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2019, 09:20:50 am »

It deregistered post-Galloway.
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« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2019, 10:31:16 am »

Politicians are going on talk shows and debating the same way they are on talk shows. Members of each body talking past one another and not to each other. That's why we got an impeachment going on that spoiled gun control legislation and no balanced budget; thus, a shutdown looming over more wall funding.
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2019, 11:13:55 am »


Maybe the word I should have used is civility.

Where is the civility in politics today? You don't have to like people to act civil toward them.

Respect is something one earns. We can respect the office of the presidency, but not the man in it. I would be civil to Trump if I met him, but he has earned zilch from me in the respect department.

I am correcting myself then.

Civility is what is needed now. How hard can that be?
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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2019, 11:29:21 am »

Civility has declined because there's no social pressure to be civil anymore, nobody gets socially shamed for being uncivil in politics anymore, also voters don't care, if voters cared and were willing to punish people for being uncivil, politicians would be more civil.
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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2019, 11:31:58 am »

People are just saying out loud what they had been doing with a smile for a long time. Is it better to have bigots being bigots out in the open, or hiding it just enough to give people an excuse to ignore it?
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2019, 11:58:03 am »


Maybe the word I should have used is civility.

Where is the civility in politics today? You don't have to like people to act civil toward them.

Respect is something one earns. We can respect the office of the presidency, but not the man in it. I would be civil to Trump if I met him, but he has earned zilch from me in the respect department.

I am correcting myself then.

Civility is what is needed now. How hard can that be?

In general, civility in society has declined over the years and that is the real issue. I mean, just look at any high school.
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2019, 12:12:36 pm »


So where and how does this lack of civility road end?

We can't keep the downward spiral going. We will turn ourselves into a third world country.
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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2019, 02:37:23 pm »

George Galloway.
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2019, 06:59:03 pm »

Politicians are going on talk shows and debating the same way they are on talk shows.
Yep. Then they do those interviews and talk the same way they do in those interviews!
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2019, 07:17:41 pm »


Maybe the word I should have used is civility.

Where is the civility in politics today? You don't have to like people to act civil toward them.

Respect is something one earns. We can respect the office of the presidency, but not the man in it. I would be civil to Trump if I met him, but he has earned zilch from me in the respect department.

I am correcting myself then.

Civility is what is needed now. How hard can that be?

Politicians are a reflection of society, i.e. the people that vote for them. The people are going to need to regain some semblance of civility if we're ever going to expect it from politicians.
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« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2019, 07:19:17 pm »

I am not capable of respecting communists.
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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2019, 09:23:28 pm »


Maybe the word I should have used is civility.

Where is the civility in politics today? You don't have to like people to act civil toward them.

Respect is something one earns. We can respect the office of the presidency, but not the man in it. I would be civil to Trump if I met him, but he has earned zilch from me in the respect department.

I am correcting myself then.

Civility is what is needed now. How hard can that be?

Politicians are a reflection of society, i.e. the people that vote for them. The people are going to need to regain some semblance of civility if we're ever going to expect it from politicians.

That's true. Trump is a symptom, not the cause.
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2019, 09:26:32 pm »

Respect is on vacation in Vegas, along with God, love, and dreams.

Respect is an overblown idea in politics, I don't think its particularly honest or genuine to pretend to respect people whom you consider evil and immoral.

That's not what "respect" means.
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2019, 10:44:36 pm »

Bipartisanship, respect, civility is a scam that only exists in journo narrative fiction land
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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2019, 10:50:44 pm »

We can respect the office of the presidency, but not the man in it. I would be civil to Trump if I met him, but he has earned zilch from me in the respect department.

Political offices should not be respected by virtue of existence. Respecting America as a country, the rule of law, the democratic process, and in the case of international affairs, diplomatic convention, would lead one to afford the officeholder of the Presidency a certain level of courtesy and decorum, but that is not out of respect for the office itself. Politicians work for the people, not the other way around. People shouldn't have too much respect for politicians.
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« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2019, 10:52:56 pm »

I am not capable of respecting communists.
What do communists have to do with 2019 American civil discourse though?
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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2019, 10:57:04 pm »

I am not capable of respecting communists.

I am not capable of respecting national socialists.
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