School shooting in California while Republicans block backgroud check in Senate

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Democrats urging gun control on Senate floor as news of school shooting broke

"As I speak on the floor right now, there is a school shooting in Santa Clara, California," Blumenthal said, misstating the Santa Clarita location. "How can we turn the other way, how can we refuse to see that shooting in real time, demanding our attention, requiring our action? We are complicit if we fail to act. It is not just a political responsibility, it is a moral imperative," he said.

"The unconscionable loss of life is our responsibility," Blumenthal added.

Moments before, Murphy was on the Senate floor calling on his colleagues to bring up a universal background checks bill that was passed by the House earlier this year.

But Murphy's motion to pass the legislation in the Senate was immediately blocked by Republican Sen. Cindy Hyde-Smith. Hyde-Smith said she blocked the legislation because her colleagues need time to consider the legislation and debate it.

Democrats have been asking #MoscowMitch to bring this legislation to a vote since early August:
Schumer to Trump: Demand McConnell hold vote on background check bill

[Woody]

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/nov/14/santa-clarita-california-saugus-high-school-police-shooting
As of we know now, five injured, one dead.
Suspect is in custody

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I’ve heard mixed reports. Some say the gunman is dead, others say he’s in custody.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Any evidence the school shooter would have failed a background check?

[The Free North]

Like always this is a combination of lax gun laws and a ed up society. Really makes you think, as a potential future parent, why risk raising your kids here?

Sounds extreme, but there are plenty of other first world countries where this never happens: are you really willing to gamble with your kids life at this point?

[President Johnson]

Moscow Mitch won't lift a finger because he's in the pocket of the NRA.

[Coastal Elitist]

I’ve heard mixed reports. Some say the gunman is dead, others say he’s in custody.

According to local news media he is in custody being treated at the local hospital

[Omega21]

Like always this is a combination of lax gun laws and a ed up society. Really makes you think, as a potential future parent, why risk raising your kids here?

Sounds extreme, but there are plenty of other first world countries where this never happens: are you really willing to gamble with your kids life at this point?

If I were in America, I would be more concerned with having my kid die on the road (since America is the only 1st World country where people don't know how to drive), or if needed, not being able to help my child pay for treatment later down the line, or not being able to help my child attain higher education.

[Coastal Elitist]

2 dead, 4 injured (including) shooter. He used a handgun and today was his birthday. Shot five students before shooting himself

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

And #MassacreMitch is trending.

If someone that Mitch McConell likes got in a shooting, would he do somthing? Or even "better", McConnel himself surviving one?

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Like always this is a combination of lax gun laws and a ed up society. Really makes you think, as a potential future parent, why risk raising your kids here?

Sounds extreme, but there are plenty of other first world countries where this never happens: are you really willing to gamble with your kids life at this point?

Lmao, lax gun laws and california

[Libertas Vel Mors]

Like always this is a combination of lax gun laws and a ed up society. Really makes you think, as a potential future parent, why risk raising your kids here?

Sounds extreme, but there are plenty of other first world countries where this never happens: are you really willing to gamble with your kids life at this point?

Also, since Columbine an average of 3 kids a year have died in mass school shootings. As a current high schooler, I have 0 worries about being killed, and restricting gun rights over 3 lives makes even less sense then if we were to ban cars (since at way more then 3 people are run over by cars every year), and both are obviously ridiculous. Leave our rights alone.

[Joe Republic]

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[OSR stands with Israel]

Like always this is a combination of lax gun laws and a ed up society. Really makes you think, as a potential future parent, why risk raising your kids here?

Sounds extreme, but there are plenty of other first world countries where this never happens: are you really willing to gamble with your kids life at this point?

Also, since Columbine an average of 3 kids a year have died in mass school shootings. As a current high schooler, I have 0 worries about being killed, and restricting gun rights over 3 lives makes even less sense then if we were to ban cars (since at way more then 3 people are run over by cars every year), and both are obviously ridiculous. Leave our rights alone.

This is a bad argument as there are far far more regulations and restrictions when it comes to driving then there are to guns

[Joe Republic]

Like always this is a combination of lax gun laws and a ed up society. Really makes you think, as a potential future parent, why risk raising your kids here?

Sounds extreme, but there are plenty of other first world countries where this never happens: are you really willing to gamble with your kids life at this point?

Lmao, lax gun laws and california

Yes, California’s gun laws are still among the most lax in the developed world.

Also, I live two miles from the Nevada border.  No matter how strict California could become, any random psycho could wander over the border unhindered and let loose in my local grocery store.  Such is the futility of state-level gun control solutions.

[7,052,770]

Like always this is a combination of lax gun laws and a ed up society. Really makes you think, as a potential future parent, why risk raising your kids here?

Sounds extreme, but there are plenty of other first world countries where this never happens: are you really willing to gamble with your kids life at this point?

Also, since Columbine an average of 3 kids a year have died in mass school shootings. As a current high schooler, I have 0 worries about being killed, and restricting gun rights over 3 lives makes even less sense then if we were to ban cars (since at way more then 3 people are run over by cars every year), and both are obviously ridiculous. Leave our rights alone.

This is a bad argument as there are far far more regulations and restrictions when it comes to driving then there are to guns

Yep, this. The logical conclusion to the cars comparison is to regulate guns to the level of cars, which would be much more regulation than Democrats typically call for.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Like always this is a combination of lax gun laws and a ed up society. Really makes you think, as a potential future parent, why risk raising your kids here?

Sounds extreme, but there are plenty of other first world countries where this never happens: are you really willing to gamble with your kids life at this point?

Also, since Columbine an average of 3 kids a year have died in mass school shootings. As a current high schooler, I have 0 worries about being killed, and restricting gun rights over 3 lives makes even less sense then if we were to ban cars (since at way more then 3 people are run over by cars every year), and both are obviously ridiculous. Leave our rights alone.

This is a bad argument as there are far far more regulations and restrictions when it comes to driving then there are to guns

Yep, this. The logical conclusion to the cars comparison is to regulate guns to the level of cars, which would be much more regulation than Democrats typically call for.

Yes but also no. Cars can be owned by felons and immigrants, dont require a background check, and pretty much require no paperwork if not driven on a public road. No one would ever suggest a 1 car per month rule. No one would seriously propose banning cars merely for being black or having tailfins or additional safety features or a large capacity fuel tank. There is full reciprocity of licenses across the states. No laws purporting to take someone's car after an ex parte judicial conference. No one demanding that legal adults under 21 be prohibited from owning or driving cars. No rules requiring mufflers to be federally licensed or prohibiting their repair. No one suggesting a full ban on cars in public. No proposals that persons sell their older trucks at joke prices or else become a criminal.

Treating guns and cars the same is both good and bad for gun rights.

[SteveRogers]

Any evidence the school shooter would have failed a background check?

I don’t know. But I know for a fact that doing absolutely nothing at all failed to prevent this, so perhaps it is time to try a different plan.

[dead0man]

Like always this is a combination of lax gun laws and a ed up society. Really makes you think, as a potential future parent, why risk raising your kids here?

Sounds extreme, but there are plenty of other first world countries where this never happens: are you really willing to gamble with your kids life at this point?

there are many many things that are many many times more likely to kill your theoretical future children than getting shot at school.

[SteveRogers]

Like always this is a combination of lax gun laws and a ed up society. Really makes you think, as a potential future parent, why risk raising your kids here?

Sounds extreme, but there are plenty of other first world countries where this never happens: are you really willing to gamble with your kids life at this point?

there are many many things that are many many times more likely to kill your theoretical future children than getting shot at school.

That’s means nothing to the children who get shot at school, and it’s certainly not an excuse to do nothing to prevent children from being shot at school.

[fhtagn]

Like always this is a combination of lax gun laws and a ed up society. Really makes you think, as a potential future parent, why risk raising your kids here?

Sounds extreme, but there are plenty of other first world countries where this never happens: are you really willing to gamble with your kids life at this point?

there are many many things that are many many times more likely to kill your theoretical future children than getting shot at school.

That’s means nothing to the children who get shot at school, and it’s certainly not an excuse to do nothing to prevent children from being shot at school.

If "doing something" means "doing something that very likely won't actually fix the problem", you should probably rethink your approach.

[dead0man]

Like always this is a combination of lax gun laws and a ed up society. Really makes you think, as a potential future parent, why risk raising your kids here?

Sounds extreme, but there are plenty of other first world countries where this never happens: are you really willing to gamble with your kids life at this point?

there are many many things that are many many times more likely to kill your theoretical future children than getting shot at school.

That’s means nothing to the children who get shot at school, and it’s certainly not an excuse to do nothing to prevent children from being shot at school.

If "doing something" means "doing something that very likely won't actually fix the problem", you should probably rethink your approach.

but it will piss off people he doesn't agree with politically and it might lead to dead cops and dead gun owners, what's not to like?

[Progressive Pessimist]

It might sound f***ed up to say, but it's a good thing the perpetrator's gun only held six bullets. This is where we're at.

[fhtagn]

It's also worth noting that California already has pretty strict gun laws. Probably safe to say "more gun control" clearly wasn't the answer.

[Progressive Pessimist]

It's also worth noting that California already has pretty strict gun laws. Probably safe to say "more gun control" clearly wasn't the answer.

What about Ohio and Texas? And even beyond that, should this really be an acceptable norm?