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« on: November 16, 2019, 07:39:01 pm »

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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2019, 07:39:34 pm »

Presumptive nominee Buttigieg?
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2019, 07:42:42 pm »

The rise must come before the fall.
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2019, 07:44:54 pm »






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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2019, 07:45:37 pm »

#Klobtraction
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2019, 07:46:02 pm »

Petementum is real, folks! Let's see if it lasts.
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2019, 07:47:01 pm »

wtf is going on anymore
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2019, 07:52:05 pm »

The rise must come before the fall.

Yeah, unlike Warren's rise which was slow and steady this seems more like a Rick Perry flavor of the month boomlet that will recede the moment someone throws a punch to Mayo Pete.
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2019, 07:52:14 pm »

HOW STUPID ARE THE PEOPLE OF IOWA!!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2019, 07:53:13 pm »

The rise must come before the fall.

Yeah, unlike Warren's rise which was slow and steady this seems more like a Rick Perry flavor of the month boomlet that will recede the moment someone throws a punch to Mayo Pete.

Mayor Pete will certainly have a huge target on his back next Wednesday.
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2019, 07:53:21 pm »

So to summarize in more readable format:

Buttigieg 25%
Warren 16%
Biden 15%
Sanders 15%
Klobuchar 6%
Booker 3%
Gabbard 3%
Harris 3%
Steyer 3%
Yang 3%
Bloomberg 2%
Bennet 1%
Bullock, Castro, Sestak, Delaney, Williamson 0%
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2019, 07:53:28 pm »

This isn't that surprising. Retail politics always win Iowa.

The real interesting part is the three-way near-tie afterwards. Biden needs to avoid fourth, but can survive it. Sanders can weather it the best, since NH is one of his best chances. Fourth in Iowa probably finishes Warren.
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2019, 07:53:50 pm »

Buttigieg was always an excellent fit for the Iowa Democratic caucus electorate. We'll see if it holds. This is a bit early to be peaking; more ideal for him would have been no polls showing him in the lead until after the December debates to give Biden and Warren more time to tear each other apart.

Terrible result for Warren, who really needs the momentum from winning Iowa to squeeze other candidates. More mixed news for Biden (at least he's not in fourth) and Sanders (at least he's trending upward). And Klobuchar is there to pick up the pieces if Buttigieg does collapse.
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2019, 07:54:24 pm »

HOW STUPID ARE THE PEOPLE OF IOWA!!!!!

LOL, this your first election?
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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2019, 07:54:45 pm »


It's a Trump quote.
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« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2019, 07:55:49 pm »

Clearly Atlasís memories arenít quite as good as I first thought Tongue
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« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2019, 07:56:29 pm »

Also, lmao @ Harris scaling back the entire rest of her campaign to camp out in Iowa only to drop down to 3% there.
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« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2019, 07:57:50 pm »

I'm hoping he's just peaking too early up there.
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2019, 08:01:52 pm »

The rise must come before the fall.

Yeah, unlike Warren's rise which was slow and steady this seems more like a Rick Perry flavor of the month boomlet that will recede the moment someone throws a punch to Mayo Pete.

Mayor Pete will certainly have a huge target on his back next Wednesday.

And he has provided a lot of ammunition with his Medicare for All flip-flopping.
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2019, 08:06:17 pm »

Warren's campaign is pretty done if she isn't 1st or 2nd in Iowa.
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2019, 08:08:06 pm »

Hereís the writeup:

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2019/11/17/pete-buttigieg-leads-new-iowa-poll-warren-sanders-biden-follow/4198100002/

Second choices:

Warren 20%
Buttigieg 14%
Biden 13%
Sanders 13%
Harris 7%
Klobuchar 6%

Are the following candidates too liberal, too conservative, or about right?

Sanders:
too liberal 53%
too conservative 3%
about right 37%

Warren:
too liberal 38%
too conservative 4%
about right 48%

Buttigieg:
too liberal 7%
too conservative 13%
about right 63%

Biden:
too liberal 7%
too conservative 28%
about right 55%
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2019, 08:10:15 pm »

Buttigieg winning Iowa won't mean much. Everyone would just move on to New Hampshire which would become more important.

That said, I think he will fizzle out well before February anyway.

Also, I'm digging that Bernie bounce.
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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2019, 08:11:27 pm »

He will place fifth in Iowa and drop out before Super Tuesday.

People are saying this more and more, folks!
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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2019, 08:11:33 pm »

As stated, Buttigieg is a great fit for Iowa, but I'm skeptical he'd survive NH and especially SC. If he somehow does end up being the nominee Trump will probably win a 1988 style landslide since minority voters would stay home at record rates.
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« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2019, 08:12:22 pm »

Buttigieg winning Iowa won't mean much. Everyone would just move on to New Hampshire which would become more important.

That said, I think he will fizzle out well before February anyway.

Also, I'm digging that Bernie bounce.

Waiting in the wings, my dude.  

That said, CNN's games are all too amusing (and not to be taken too seriously) anyway.  
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