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Frodo
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« on: November 20, 2019, 08:08:33 PM »

I'm sure the prospect of giving global warming activists the finger also appealed to them:

China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals

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China has enough coal-fired power plants in the pipeline to match the entire capacity of the European Union, driving the expansion in global coal power and confounding the movement against the polluting fossil fuel, according to a report.

The nation has almost 148 gigawatts of coal-fired capacity under active construction or likely to be resumed after being suspended, Global Energy Monitor, a non-profit group that tracks coal stations, said in the report Thursday based on plant-by-plant data. That’s almost equivalent to 150 gigawatts of existing coal fleet capacity in the EU and more than the combined 105 gigawatts under construction in the rest of the world, it said.

In contrast to many other countries, including the U.K.’s pledge to shut all coal plants by 2025, Beijing remains committed to coal as its biggest source of power, representing a major challenge to global emissions reduction targets. Its additions in the 18 months to June dwarf declines elsewhere in the world, according to the report.
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2019, 02:38:43 AM »

but muh Paris Agreement!
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2019, 05:14:59 AM »

this is more of a really screwed up stimulus package by provincial governments desperate to impress to central government that they're growing by X% a year. It certainly isn't to satisfy a demand - I imagine in ten years down the line the Chinese power companies are going to have a crisis on their hand maintaining these white elephants.
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2019, 06:32:13 AM »

this is more of a really screwed up stimulus package by provincial governments desperate to impress to central government that they're growing by X% a year. It certainly isn't to satisfy a demand - I imagine in ten years down the line the Chinese power companies are going to have a crisis on their hand maintaining these white elephants.

Really?  How do you know?
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2019, 10:08:00 AM »

USA turned out to be right to get out of Paris deal. The Russians and the Chinese don't do anything about climate change either, unfortunately. It's a lost cause.
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2019, 12:15:22 AM »

this is more of a really screwed up stimulus package by provincial governments desperate to impress to central government that they're growing by X% a year. It certainly isn't to satisfy a demand - I imagine in ten years down the line the Chinese power companies are going to have a crisis on their hand maintaining these white elephants.

I was reading about that on CarbonBrief. Chinese provinces are building new coal plants, but not using them. The utilization percentage of these coal plants has continues to be very low. Just like you mention, these new coal plants are entirely for economic stimulus to prop up China's decelerating economy.
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2019, 12:33:53 AM »

this is more of a really screwed up stimulus package by provincial governments desperate to impress to central government that they're growing by X% a year. It certainly isn't to satisfy a demand - I imagine in ten years down the line the Chinese power companies are going to have a crisis on their hand maintaining these white elephants.

Really?  How do you know?

https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-global-coal-power-set-for-record-fall-in-2019

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At the same time, Chinese power firms have been continuing to add new coal-fired power plants to the grid at a rate of one large plant every two weeks. This has driven coal-fired power plant utilisation rates – the share of hours in the year when they are running – back down to record lows of 48.6%. This is the fourth year in a row that the Chinese national average has been below 50% – and also below the global average, which stands at 54%.

Nobody is saying that China is weaning itself off of coal. Not yet anyway.

But its misleading to only look at added capacity. China is building coal plants even though they already have too much capacity. More to that, these new coal plants are idling the majority of the time. That makes the new plants unprofitable. Renewable and Nuclear energy are also continuing to become more attractive options.

China is also facing a slowing economy, with its slowest growth in 30 years. Usually, Chinese leadership tries to build its way out of slow economic growth, ghost cities being the most notable example. But ghost coal plants have also been an option this go around.
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« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2019, 12:28:04 AM »


That Paris Agreement is just virtue signaling from cowards who don't plan on doing anything about climate change.
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2019, 07:21:49 AM »

Sure, we know that.  But a lot dummies thought it was SUPER important.  'cause it shows we mean it...or something.  I always figured it was more valuable to actually do something.
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