Opinion of Matthew 5:28

[Kingpoleon]

From the beginning of thought to the beginning of action is but a second; so I think philosophically and morally it is sound. Practically? Perhaps unlikely....

The suggestion that leering at someone is literally morally tantamount to adultery is probably hyperbole, but it's definitely not a good thing to do, and more straight men could stand to take that to heart. The idea that this verse is meant to impose obligations on women rather than on men is of course absolutely ridiculous and worthy of no serious consideration.

I understand the quote is given in the context of within a straight, patriarchal society, but I don’t really like how a large part of the “inclusive Church” has chosen to ignore the vices of lust and adultery in a lot of their moral teachings - sometimes to the point of excluding traditional and right (in my view) Christian ideas about relationships/sexual morality from applying to gay people.

[Kingpoleon]

Those that do support same sex marriage, and therefore bring same sex couples into the same covenant, I've never heard of them not applying the same standards and expectations of monogamy and mutual respect to same sex couples.

I'm tired of people 'berating' gays for not being monogamous, or having multiple partners when society did everything it could to discourage us from settling down and offering nothing to those who did while allowing straights not only marriage and tax benefits but 'privacy' in that marriage to be monogamous or in some cases not, and also offer easy divorce.

Wow. I’m not “berating gays”.... I’m saying that “leftist Christians” (to the extent I believe faith and politics are sadly intertwined) often dismiss even the concept of morality because it’s something proposed by the Religious Right.

[Kingpoleon]

My apologies - I worded it poorly. I meant I was uncomfortable with pro-gay churches that openly reject monogamy, fidelity, and traditional Christian morality. Not that there was so much a double standard thereof.

[Kingpoleon]

I don’t understand what you mean; Nathan is correct - a small (if growing) number of churches see little to no reason to keep traditional Christian teachings on premarital sex, frankly, among a number of other issues.