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« on: December 06, 2019, 01:35:52 PM »

Biden’s winning the nomination. I had a come to Jesus moment when Harris dropped out.

Warren, Sanders, and Pete are not penetrating his wall in the South.

At least it will just be one term.
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2019, 02:52:34 PM »

Biden’s winning the nomination. I had a come to Jesus moment when Harris dropped out.

Warren, Sanders, and Pete are not penetrating his wall in the South.

At least it will just be one term.

Followed by President Haley or President DeSantis
Yuck!
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2019, 03:57:32 PM »

Biden really is clueless with his latest ad if he thinks a few global elites laughing at Trump is going to convince any good amount of Obama/Trump voters.
It’s not for them though.

Romney/Clinton and Romney/Third Party voters are a thing and honestly how Democrats will be expanding the map. Biden is not going to do better than Clinton with poor and working class white people.
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« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2019, 11:00:50 PM »

Biden is a hot mess but he’s going to be the nominee. We are going to have to work to get as many Democrats elected as possible to hold his ass accountable. Don’t know what else to say to the detractors.
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2019, 01:15:21 PM »

Biden (and Pete) released his governing strategy plans today and you guessed it: bipartisanship will help him pass his agenda!
The sad part is that this is what voters want. I forgot the exact numbers but it was either a plurality or a bare majority of Democrats wanted the nominee to be someone who will work with Republicans. Voters are naive or plain willfully ignorant about how bloody politics is. But Joe is giving them what they want.

It's going to be him and we need to elect as many Democrats to pad/create the majority as possible.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2019, 04:06:39 PM »

Yall think Eric Holder will endorse in this primary?

I just know Team Biden is holding some huge Black endorsements in the arsenal for (1) MLK Weekend and (2) the pivotal weeks before the SC Primary. 
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2019, 08:38:59 PM »

Yall think Eric Holder will endorse in this primary?

I just know Team Biden is holding some huge Black endorsements in the arsenal for (1) MLK Weekend and (2) the pivotal weeks before the SC Primary. 
South Carolina will become "MEANINGLESS" for Joe Biden if he can't pull off a Victory in either Iowa or New Hampshire.

Do ya'll really think he can still win the Nomination if he loses IA & NH? This isn't 1992.
Hillary won Iowa by 0.4 points. Do you think a Bernie 0.4 victory in Iowa would have reversed her margins in South Carolina? She won Southern blacks like 85-15 and would have done so no matter what.

Biden will have the black vote while he/Sanders/Warren/Pete split whites. There are several states where Biden very well may win all the delegates.

You’re right this isn’t 1992. The Southern bloc is even BLACKER and more significant with the booming populations of states like TX, GA, NC, and FL.
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2019, 12:16:29 AM »

For folks wondering why I went from hating Biden to outright declaring him the inevitable nominee:



Harris had the biggest presence in South Carolina (I’ve been there regularly volunteering for her and Warren) with her out, Biden is going to clear 60 percent there easy.
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2019, 10:51:20 AM »

r Harris collapsed because she was a social radical.
That’s bullsh-t.

But it’s neither here nor there. Biden will be the nominee and I hope he chooses Harris.
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« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2019, 11:11:31 AM »

r Harris collapsed because she was a social radical.
That’s bullsh-t.

But it’s neither here nor there. Biden will be the nominee and I hope he chooses Harris.

Do you think Harris will endorse Biden before the primary is over (or even begun)?
Yes. She had the most CBC endorsements (yes, more than Biden) and has the power to choose what position she wants in a Biden administration. The CBC wants her to be the POTUS after Biden and I think they will work out a deal that leads to Harris endorsing before South Carolina if Biden loses the first three. The black establishment WILL NOT get behind Warren, Sanders, or Pete.
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2019, 12:19:01 PM »

"The first and most important plank in my climate change proposal: Beat Trump."
As someone who has called and knocked on the doors of hundreds of Democratic primary voters, that is the main thing they're worried about.

Me: "What's your most important issue?"

Them: "Getting Trump's ass out of there."

It is what it is.
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2019, 02:37:10 PM »

"The first and most important plank in my climate change proposal: Beat Trump."
As someone who has called and knocked on the doors of hundreds of Democratic primary voters, that is the main thing they're worried about.

Me: "What's your most important issue?"

Them: "Getting Trump's ass out of there."

It is what it is.

I don't doubt that, but it's about as much of a plan for solving climate change as banning plastic straws. There is nothing in Joe Biden's political history that suggests that he is likely to lead us anywhere on this or any other environmental issue beyond rescinding Trump's executive orders.
It’s why I’m focused on the Senate and padding our majority in the House to hold him accountable. Because the voters are naive and think Biden can work with the Republicans to get things done.
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2019, 11:55:20 AM »



This ad is going up on the air in South Carolina. This will resonate more than Bernie Sanders railing against "the estabwishment".
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2019, 04:26:45 PM »

He’s not running for a second term.

He and his team can fake it until after the 2022 midterms.
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2019, 07:44:59 PM »

This is gonna sound really weird, but Biden is the only candidate I can see improving his favorables in a general. I just think he has more potential to win back reluctant Democrats and hold those outside of the party who like him than someone like Bernie or Buttigieg.
I loathe the way he talks about working with Republicans but I went from being repulsed by his candidacy to..... not mad if he gets the nominee. He's been good the last few weeks.

I've been reconsidering my options with Harris out, and rumors floating that Warren will deploy her delegates to Bernie if they manage to block Joe from an outright majority.

I previously said I would support Bernie over Biden but with the actual election staring me in my face, I could NEVER support Bernie as the nominee.
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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2019, 10:24:16 AM »

This is gonna sound really weird, but Biden is the only candidate I can see improving his favorables in a general. I just think he has more potential to win back reluctant Democrats and hold those outside of the party who like him than someone like Bernie or Buttigieg.
I loathe the way he talks about working with Republicans but I went from being repulsed by his candidacy to..... not mad if he gets the nominee. He's been good the last few weeks.

I've been reconsidering my options with Harris out, and rumors floating that Warren will deploy her delegates to Bernie if they manage to block Joe from an outright majority.

I previously said I would support Bernie over Biden but with the actual election staring me in my face, I could NEVER support Bernie as the nominee.
Why the change of heart on Bernie?
I always hated both of them lol but Bernie’s base is just toxic and he will be a cancer on the Democratic Party. He’ll be forcing folks to go farther left than their district, his crazed stans will primary every Democrat who doesn’t fall in line. Complete chaos.

At least Biden will get out of the way if he becomes a liability.
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2019, 01:17:34 AM »

The comparison of Biden to Hillary/Kerry isn't really fair.  He's moderate like them, but he's way more charismatic.  That was their main problem. 

I agree with you to an extent, but was prepared for this response.  Tell me.  Who finds Joe Biden charismatic?  Look at the polls.  It's geriatric women over 55 years-old, which is the same demographic that thought John Kerry was charismatic. Charisma is a perception.  Plenty of old hags thought Hillary and Kerry were very charismatic, whereas many young voters saw two old charlatans without any real personality.  No matter how many times the establishment characterizes him as "Sweet Uncle Joe", but everyone under 50 thinks of him as creepy "Uncle Paul".  https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Uncle%20Paul

There are plenty of people under 40 who think of Joe as Obama’s crazy sidekick and will vote for him for President. Bernie bots on Twitter are not the entire cohort of young people in this country.
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« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2019, 11:40:00 AM »

What do people think of a Biden/Harris ticket?

I don’t like Harris at all, but I’m also not their targeted voter. But I am genuinely asking what people supporting Biden (and others) think of this?

I think she would be his best choice. She balances out the ticket in a lot of ways. Plus, they're not very ideologically dissimilar.

However, if he wants to truly balance the ticket while simultaneously bringing major (positive) press attention & a significant fan base to his campaign, then he'd be wrong to choose anybody but Warren.

I agree with the assessment and would be fine with Harris, even though my personal favorite for Uncle Joe's number two is Congresswoman Nanette Barragan, who represents California's 44th District. At 43 years (44 on election day), she's young, Latina, progressive, but not too far left either. She had endorsed Kamala before the dropout. Joe Biden has already strong support from the African American community, so having a Latina on the ticket may boost cruicial Hispanic turnout in the important Sun Belt battlegrounds like Arizona, Florida and potentially Texas. In addition, Barragan has a clean record, no baggage and when you watch her, she's well articulated. As a fresh new face with local and congressional experience, she would be great addition to the experienced statesman Biden. Whether Biden serves one or two terms, he could function as a bridge to the Democratic Party's future, that a Vice President Nanette Barragan would represent. Younger Democrats would also be assured that President Biden will fill his administration with a broad range of people that include minorities and women. And lastly, even though it shouldn't be a criteria, I may note she's also very attractive.
Kamala Harris has experience with broad coalitions in California from Black to Latino to Asian. She would be dynamic and bring lots of press to the VP pick. Biden & Harris would be lethal to Trump in the suburbs across the suburbs while Biden works his supposed magic in the Midwest.

Hopefully CBC is lobbying to get Harris that spot. Biden is only going to serve one term and the CBC wants Kamala in the Oval after him.
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« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2019, 12:49:51 PM »



Why I’ve stopped resisting Biden. It’s a fruitless effort.
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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2019, 02:46:41 PM »

Joe’s team has been ON IT with his ads lately. I bet their research is telling them what I’ve seen in South Carolina. Voters are tired of Bernie’s purity tests and nitpicking over policies that will be dead if McConnell controls the Senate. They just want Trump’s ass out. One of the main reasons Kamala abandoned attacks on Biden and focused squarely on Trump during the last months of her camapign:

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« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2019, 12:03:23 PM »

Joe’s team has been ON IT with his ads lately. I bet their research is telling them what I’ve seen in South Carolina. Voters are tired of Bernie’s purity tests and nitpicking over policies that will be dead if McConnell controls the Senate. They just want Trump’s ass out. One of the main reasons Kamala abandoned attacks on Biden and focused squarely on Trump during the last months of her camapign:



LOL at thinking Biden will get some sort of bipartisan support in the Senate, how many Republicans voted for Obamacare? This ad is what you get when you actually don't have your own policies, so you have to go against opponent which isn't even his opponent yet. It reminds me of Hillary strategy to go for a win in AZ or GA and not to WI and MI. So, Biden's message is I'm not Trump and I'm not Bernie. Great stuff, it's gonna excite so many people to hand him a win in November. Bernie is on the other way ineluctable cause we tried his way in 2016 and failed. Wait.. No, he's ineluctable and will get nothing done, yet Obama and Biden did so much with a Republican Senate and a House, they confirmed so many judges and passed bold progressive laws and didn't deport immigrants at a record pace, and didn't do drone strikes at a record pace. Actually, Obama and Biden and their centrism gave us 75yr old socialist from Vermont as an almost nominee and a racist complete moron with zero experience who has the best words as a president. Good luck electing Biden in 2020. In 2024 Adolf Hitler reincarnated will probably get elected after him.
I don’t think Biden is getting much passed either. Voters are naive and want this fake air of bipartisanship though. Which is why Biden is going to win the primary. Democrats are not choosing Bernie Sanders to be their leader when he doesn’t even like the party! Are Chris Coons, Kyrsten Sinema, Tom Carper, and Joe Manchin voting for Medicare for All, eliminating all medical debt, and free public tuition? Nope. So how will it get passed with a Dem majority let alone a Republican majority.

And Biden should be competing in AZ and GA with rapid growing non-white populations and college ed whites leaving the GOP in significant numbers. Last time I checked Pres candidates could compete and spend resources in more than one area of the country.

Anyway Bernie is a disaster waiting to happen. People are tired of his BS which is why he hasn’t moved past his core 15-20 percent since he got in.

And let’s be clear: I don’t want Joe. But it’s going to happen and I’m focused on the down ballot Dems running for Senate and flipping state legislatures. But I refuse to disparage the potential nominee at this point.
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« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2019, 08:18:07 PM »

Joe’s team has been ON IT with his ads lately. I bet their research is telling them what I’ve seen in South Carolina. Voters are tired of Bernie’s purity tests and nitpicking over policies that will be dead if McConnell controls the Senate. They just want Trump’s ass out. One of the main reasons Kamala abandoned attacks on Biden and focused squarely on Trump during the last months of her camapign:



LOL at thinking Biden will get some sort of bipartisan support in the Senate, how many Republicans voted for Obamacare? This ad is what you get when you actually don't have your own policies, so you have to go against opponent which isn't even his opponent yet. It reminds me of Hillary strategy to go for a win in AZ or GA and not to WI and MI. So, Biden's message is I'm not Trump and I'm not Bernie. Great stuff, it's gonna excite so many people to hand him a win in November. Bernie is on the other way ineluctable cause we tried his way in 2016 and failed. Wait.. No, he's ineluctable and will get nothing done, yet Obama and Biden did so much with a Republican Senate and a House, they confirmed so many judges and passed bold progressive laws and didn't deport immigrants at a record pace, and didn't do drone strikes at a record pace. Actually, Obama and Biden and their centrism gave us 75yr old socialist from Vermont as an almost nominee and a racist complete moron with zero experience who has the best words as a president. Good luck electing Biden in 2020. In 2024 Adolf Hitler reincarnated will probably get elected after him.

Under the "extremist" Republican Tea party...the Dems were reduced to what....6 trifecta in state government after 2016? Under "moderate" Dems like Bill Clinton....the GOP ended 6 decades of almost uninterrupted House rule by the Democratic party which has existed since New Deal days. But Atlas keeps relentlessly jerking off about how we need a "moderate" Dem like Biden to win.

It's almost become comical at this point how the GOP can shift as far right as it wants and win ever increasing majorities but meanwhile the ghost of McGovern and Jimmy Carter forever haunt leftism and is the reason why Dems cant nominate a leftist.
Bernie Sanders is just an insufferable c-nt.

And I don’t think a leftist candidate would automatically lose I’m just saying Democratic primary voters don’t give a f-ck about Bernie and his looney purity tests. And they don’t. I’ve talked to hundreds of voters in S.C. volunteering for Warren and Harris at different points. They just want Trump out. Nitpicking over Medicare for All or a public option is not what they’re doing......
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« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2019, 12:53:00 PM »

He said that in 2016 because the VP seal is on his podium.

Either way- he said it and it’s true.
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« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2019, 04:32:53 PM »

Stop. Y’all know that man is not putting a Republican on the ticket.

I do think it’s hella annoying how Democrats are always asked these stupid ass questions though.
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« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2019, 06:00:04 PM »

Stop. Y’all know that man is not putting a Republican on the ticket.

I do think it’s hella annoying how Democrats are always asked these stupid ass questions though.

You're right, but Biden's also the one who chose to give that particular answer, further proving he's unfit for office.
That’s a reach. I could easily see Warren and Sanders saying something similar and the people on Twitter would have been just fine with it. Yes, Biden is naive as hell when it comes to the GOP but he would not put them on the ticket. He was just saying something to get them out of his face. Democrats aren’t allowed to come across as craven and hyper-partisan like the media allows the GOP to be.
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